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  • #31
    Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
    A 30-something who starts experimenting with drugs and drinking is pretty concerning. Because they are rejecting their moral code completely the tend to go super far and often off the deep end. That is what I've observed anyway.
    I've always thought the opposite would be true. The studies show that most alcoholics start drinking at a very early age -- I would think that the chance that a typical lapsed Mormon who starts drinking in his 30s or later would become an alcoholic would be extraordinarily low.

    But I guess Crapo fits that bill and seems to have a serious drinking problem -- maybe he is just a statistical aberration.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
      I've always thought the opposite would be true. The studies show that most alcoholics start drinking at a very early age -- I would think that the chance that a typical lapsed Mormon who starts drinking in his 30s or later would become an alcoholic would be extraordinarily low.

      But I guess Crapo fits that bill and seems to have a serious drinking problem -- maybe he is just a statistical aberration.
      They seem to know very little about things like tolerance. I'd be curious if there was any data on lapsed Mormons who start imbibing later.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
        I've always thought the opposite would be true. The studies show that most alcoholics start drinking at a very early age -- I would think that the chance that a typical lapsed Mormon who starts drinking in his 30s or later would become an alcoholic would be extraordinarily low.

        But I guess Crapo fits that bill and seems to have a serious drinking problem -- maybe he is just a statistical aberration.
        I would be shocked if Crapo only started drinking later in life. There are lots of closet drinkers out there.
        "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
          I would be shocked if Crapo only started drinking later in life. There are lots of closet drinkers out there.
          I wonder if it might be better for some of the LDS folks who abuse scripts, particularly opiates to have different options for recrational use/abuse

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          • #35
            I bet this is the most awkward Christmas ever for the Crapo family. Drunk driving isn't cool, but I feel for the guy.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by YOhio View Post
              I bet this is the most awkward Christmas ever for the Crapo family. Drunk driving isn't cool, but I feel for the guy.
              I'm not keen on all the people who are celebrating his screw-up. People hear about bad behavior and hope it is a republican or democrat. I'm trying to not do that.
              Crapo seems like he has been an ok senator. I wouldn't be happy if this were Harry Reid or Orrin Hatch.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
                I would be shocked if Crapo only started drinking later in life. There are lots of closet drinkers out there.
                I think it is Obama's fault. He told him to have some eggnog.
                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • #38
                  10 Things You Didn't Know About Mike Crapo

                  1. Michael Dean Crapo was born in Idaho Falls, Idaho, on May 20, 1951, to George Crapo, who ran a post office, and Melba Olsen Crapo, a homemaker. His parents also farmed potatoes and grains on a 200-acre farm.

                  2. Crapo was a longtime Boy Scout, reaching Eagle Scout rank in 1966 and receiving the Distinguished Eagle Scout Award in 2000.

                  3. He graduated summa cum laude, with a major in political science, from Brigham Young University in 1973 and cum laude from Harvard Law School in 1977.

                  4. After law school, he clerked for the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in California. He worked briefly as a lawyer in San Diego before returning to his hometown of Idaho Falls.

                  5. He is a practicing Mormon and was named a bishop in the church at age 31.

                  6. He was elected to the Idaho Senate in 1984, two years after his older brother Terry, a state House majority leader, died of leukemia. He became state Senate leader in 1988 and was elected to Congress four years later.

                  7. In 1998, after serving three terms in the U.S. House, Crapo was elected as Idaho's first Mormon senator.

                  8. He was diagnosed with prostate cancer in 1999 and is a two-time survivor. He cosponsored a 2008 Senate resolution that designated September as National Prostate Cancer Awareness Month.

                  9. Crapo and his wife, Susan, whom he married in 1974, have five children and two grandchildren.

                  10. Crapo, a conservative, was recently among 11 of 18 members of President Obama's deficit-reduction commission who supported the cochairs' final plan.

                  I think I mentioned this once before on CUF. I had a bishop in Idaho that was a beer drinker. My non-member friend of mine who was my bishop's hired hand told me he was but I didn't believe him until I ran into him coming out of a remote country bar and grill with a beer in his hand. I was just going in to a hamburger (really). I kept it on the low down and he helped me get into BYU. He was my best bishop ever.
                  Last edited by Uncle Ted; 12-24-2012, 10:04 PM.
                  "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                  "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                  "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • #39
                    It's early but the quotes from no-mos seem very understanding while quotes from the members seem very unforgiving. Here is a sample.


                    Hill is the Idaho Senate's top Republican, a position Crapo held while he was a state lawmaker from 1988 to 1992. Like Crapo, Hill is a Mormon.
                    "Obviously, I think many of us are very disappointed," Hill said. "As a citizen of the state of Idaho, we have a right to be disappointed, and as a member of his faith, I'm disappointed that a tenet of our faith didn't mean any more to him than evidently it did."

                    "As a friend and colleague, I offer my support and help to him in any way I can," Risch said in a statement. "Senator Crapo has worked hard on behalf of Idahoans for many years and I have full confidence that Senator Crapo will continue his dedicated and unselfish service to the people of Idaho."
                    Risch is Catholic.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                      It's early but the quotes from no-mos seem very understanding while quotes from the members seem very unforgiving. Here is a sample.
                      Are people in Idaho more upset that a Senator got a DUI or that a prominent Mormon got a DUI?
                      "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
                        Are people in Idaho more upset that a Senator got a DUI or that a prominent Mormon got a DUI?
                        I think the members are more upset that one of our own was drinking, that the first Mormon senator from Idaho who was a former bishop and stake president was drinking. I still believe the fact that he got caught because of a DUI is a far second.
                        Last edited by RC Vikings; 12-25-2012, 12:34 PM.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by RC Vikings View Post
                          It's early but the quotes from no-mos seem very understanding while quotes from the members seem very unforgiving.
                          This may be the least surprising aspect of this entire incident.
                          “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                          ― W.H. Auden


                          "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                          -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                          "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                          --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                          • #43
                            6. He was elected to the Idaho Senate in 1984, two years after his older brother Terry, a state House majority leader, died of leukemia. He became state Senate leader in 1988 and was elected to Congress four years later.
                            Terry's son was my best friend as a kid. Such an awesome family. I haven't seen them in 30 years, but still have great memories of them.

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                            • #44
                              A DUI is usually a symptom.

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                              • #45
                                He missed his mission. Vietnam may have hindered him though. I visited with him in Ma nwaring Center at Ricks briefly while I was a member of the College Republicans. A proffeser at Ricks Crapo was his sp. That is when as house member he commuted back and forth. I don't know if he does that anymore. Of course disappointing he got a dui. Wonder if it was perscription or something.

                                Noah got drunk. But either he made a mistake, Too much ferment he did not know about or Wine was not against wow then. Anyway he is still going to Celestial Kingdom. Good Senator.

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