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Originally posted by All-American
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We're going to have to agree to disagree about it being a bad idea, but it seems we do agree that there's no need to fear a guy that is carrying who doesn't start shooting."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
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I don't know how the carry permit laws work. Under what circumstances may a permitted gun carrier lawfully unholster his/her weapon?
I'd be worried about a guy who walked into a store holding his 9mm in his hand as opposed to it being in his holster. And yet he could unholster his weapon in a second or two, so I don't know why I should be much less worried about it being on his hip or in his shoulder harness.Comment
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lol. You sound like a crazy man. There is something wrong with a guy who walks into JC Penney carrying a rifle on his back. It's strange, anti-social behavior.Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostComment
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"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear LeaderComment
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[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_Square_shooting"]Trolley Square shooting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostComment
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That says that he carried the weapons, but does not say if he openly carried or concealed them.Originally posted by YOhio View Post"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear LeaderComment
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The guy parks his car and shortly afterward begins killing people with a pump action shotgun. I don't think he was worried about concealment.Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostComment
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Perhaps not, but my point that is wasn't reported that he was openly carrying is valid, whether you agree or not. He could have hid the shotgun under his trench coat, no?Originally posted by YOhio View Post"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear LeaderComment
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[YOUTUBE]84ptFVq22PY[/YOUTUBE]"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
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Reactionary legislation...
Cuomo’s new gun law does not exempt New York cops, could prevent police from responding to school shootings
A New York lawmaker says that the state’s recently passed gun control law stunningly fails to include any exemptions for law enforcement officers, and technically prohibits police from ever bringing guns on school grounds or possessing extended ammo magazines.
The NY SAFE Act, which was championed and signed into law by Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo, bans all magazines that hold more than seven bullets and pre-1994 high capacity magazines, and prohibits the carrying of guns on school grounds.
But because no loophole for law enforcement was included in the law, every police officer in the state is technically in violation of the statute even though the prohibition is unlikely to be enforced, according to New York Assemblyman Al Graf.
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“There was actually a story that was relayed to me the other day about a New York City police officer who went to a school the other day to pick up his kid, and the security guard told him that if he came to the school with his off-duty gun he would be arrested,” Graf continued.
The prohibition on carrying a gun into a school could even extend to on-duty police officers responding to an emergency such as a shooting.
“I guess they would have to sit there and take their gun belts off before they came in” to the school, Graf said.
Graf says that the exemption was not included in the bill because Cuomo, a rising Democratic star and possible 2016 presidential candidate, rushed it through the legislature via a shortcut known as a “message of necessity.” This allowed for little public scrutiny of the bill, which was easily passed by the legislature and signed into law on Tuesday.
“I got my hands on the bill at 11:30 at night,” Graf said, adding that he only had an hour to go through it before a meeting of the Codes Committee.
“Nobody was really able to look the bill,” before it was passed, according to Graf.
According to Graf, amendments to fix the bill were already in the works by the time it was voted on, but have not yet reached the floor.
[...]"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!Comment
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I can't believe I'm seriously considering moving there. I was relieved the other day to learn that if we do move there, my wife can legally carry pepper spray in New York City...IF it is purchased at an authorized dealer and we fill out a form with name and address.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostComment
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Idiots.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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This is the disconnect for me. Off duty copy carrying? Fine. Someone who has to carry a bank roll or something else people routinely rob others for? I get it. Person who has been threatened or has a crazy ex in their life? Check. Guy who just carries all the time because he is a second amendment warrior/wants to be ready for all eventualities...we all know that guy is a weirdo right? He makes us all nervous, no? That guy is having some hero fantasies.Originally posted by All-American View PostComment
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"Sometimes you have to die for something I believe in."Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
That pretty much says it all."Remember to double tap"Comment
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Is the last guy carrying concealed?Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
I see a pretty big difference between a guy who has a pistol in his coat pocket an a guy who has a military rifle slung on his back.τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσινComment
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