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  • We shouldn't be using the term gay marriage or traditional marriage. If one must have a term in addition to marriage maybe it should be same-gender marriage and opposite gender marriage.

    I need to know what to use instead of traditional, just like I shouldn't say illegal alien, but undocumented. I am sure there are some others I still use that isn't what the non mean people say.

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    • Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
      50.
      I'm impressed you think Mormonism will be around that long. Sounds like you are getting soft.
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      • Emergent stay of California gay marriages sought.

        http://www.scotusblog.com/2013/06/em...riages-sought/

        Not likely to amount to much, I should add.
        Last edited by All-American; 06-29-2013, 08:01 PM.
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        • Originally posted by All-American View Post
          Emergent stay of California gay marriages sought.

          http://www.scotusblog.com/2013/06/em...riages-sought/
          Alliance Defending Freedom, uh, okay. Give it up already. Last I knew when the SCOTUS makes a decision it is final. Fat Lady already sung Alliance Defending Freedom (Sounds like a name Sean Hannity would make up). Appeal, really? Since when does the supreme court hear appeals on their own decision. Um, NEVER. You just look silly now. Tell me the person leading this circus show is not LDS.

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          • Originally posted by Bruiserstone View Post
            Alliance Defending Freedom, uh, okay. Give it up already. Last I knew when the SCOTUS makes a decision it is final. Fat Lady already sung Alliance Defending Freedom (Sounds like a name Sean Hannity would make up). Appeal, really? Since when does the supreme court hear appeals on their own decision. Um, NEVER. You just look silly now. Tell me the person leading this circus show is not LDS.
            The person leading this circus show is not LDS. As far as I can tell, anyway, but you can keep digging, if you want.

            http://www.alliancedefendingfreedom....out/leadership
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            • Originally posted by All-American View Post
              The person leading this circus show is not LDS. As far as I can tell, anyway, but you can keep digging, if you want.

              http://www.alliancedefendingfreedom....out/leadership
              Your right, no LDS folk. I am relieved. I see James Dobson is one of the founders. Again people, this horse is dead. Please stop beating it. Embarrassing!

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              • Originally posted by venkman View Post
                This pretty much sums up my thoughts...


                http://www.redstate.com/2013/06/27/y...-made-to-care/

                You will be made to care about gay marriage. You may think it does not affect you or will not affect you or you can support it and leave well enough alone, but you cannot. The secular left and aggressive gay rights activists will not allow you to.

                You must either fully embrace it or be shunned. You may think it does not affect your marriage, your life, or anything else, but you will be made to care — you will not be allowed to accept that others can disagree on the issue due to their orthodox faith. The slow march toward the destruction of the marital institution now picks up pace with Anthony Kennedy’s decision in Windsor.
                I hope he and those who share his fears are wrong.
                Venkman's quote reminds me of this one:


                Now we are generous with the Negro. We are willing that the Negro have the highest education. I would be willing to let every Negro drive a Cadillac if they could afford it. I would be willing that they have all the advantages they can get out of life in the world. But let them enjoy these things among themselves. I think the Lord segregated the Negro and who is man to change that segregation? It reminds me of the scripture on marriage, ‘what God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.’ Only here we have the reverse of the thing -- what God hath separated, let not man bring together again." -- MEP
                "I would be willing to let every gay person have a cadillac...but pretty soon they will want to send their children to your schools..."
                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                --Jonathan Swift

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                • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                  Venkman's quote reminds me of this one:




                  "I would be willing to let every gay person have a cadillac...but pretty soon they will want to send their children to your schools..."
                  Hey, Mr. No Moral Authority, just drop it. You chose to leave on your own. Nobody wants to hear it anymore.
                  "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


                  "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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                  • Originally posted by All-American View Post
                    Emergent stay of California gay marriages sought.

                    http://www.scotusblog.com/2013/06/em...riages-sought/

                    Not likely to amount to much, I should add.
                    Kennedy strikes again: Stay denied

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                    • Originally posted by Bruiserstone View Post
                      Your right, no LDS folk. I am relieved. I see James Dobson is one of the founders. Again people, this horse is dead. Please stop beating it. Embarrassing!
                      Way to go, Bruiserstone. Looks like you have really done your homework by pegging CS as a hotbed of anti-gay marriage rhetoric.
                      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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                      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                        Way to go, Bruiserstone. Looks like you have really done your homework by pegging CS as a hotbed of anti-gay marriage rhetoric.
                        Sorry, don't know where you are going with this statement Duderino. I was not talking about CS at all. I was talking about the Alliance Defending Freedom giving it up already. SCOTUS has decided the case. Done!

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                        • Originally posted by All-American View Post
                          John McGinnis of Northwestern Law school is part of a panel on Cspan discussing the recently concluded term. He is no fan of DOMA, and supports same sex marriage, but he called the Kennedy opinion in Windsor "the most singular failure in the history of the Supreme Court." Gasps ensued.
                          He knows the Court has been around longer than just this term, right?

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                          • Originally posted by calicoug View Post
                            He knows the Court has been around longer than just this term, right?
                            It's a strong statement, yes, but you can see where he is coming from if you stop to think about what that statement might mean. Korematsu and Dredd Scott will go down as the worst decisions, but that has more to do with the decisions themselves than the legal reasoning used to support them. If the purpose of an opinion is to provide the legal reasoning behind the judgment and to clearly lay out the governing law, it's hard to think of many opinions that are less effective than Windsor. Roe v. Wade probably belongs in that conversation, but not many others come readily to mind.
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                            • Prop. 8 proponents file request for injunctive relief limiting the district court's ruling to the parties in the case.

                              http://sblog.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-con...on-7-12-13.pdf
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