Hannity likes Amnesty now

[frank ryan]

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...0,796921.story

That is convenient.

[Moliere]

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...0,796921.story

That is convenient.

At least he didn't flip flop.

[frank ryan]

At least he didn't flip flop.

Yeah, he "evolved"

[Indy Coug]

Some form of amnesty has to be part of a comprehensive immigration solution; if for no other reason than just sheer pragmatism.

[frank ryan]

Some form of amnesty has to be part of a comprehensive immigration solution; if for no other reason than just sheer pragmatism.

and no one on the right has really been articulating this at all.

[Indy Coug]

and no one Not enough people on the right has have really been articulating this at all.

FIFY

[TripletDaddy]

Some form of amnesty has to be part of a comprehensive immigration solution; if for no other reason than just sheer pragmatism.

lol. You think so?? You mean it isn't practical to deport every illegal immigrant in the country??

Another thing to add to the list of things Republicans eventually figure out but Democrats seem to know way before.

[Moliere]

lol. You think so?? You mean it isn't practical to deport every illegal immigrant in the country??

Another thing to add to the list of things Republicans eventually figure out but Democrats seem to know way before.

What about self deportation? That sounds like a good idea.

[Indy Coug]

What about self deportation? That sounds like a good idea.

Someone in our ward just self-deported, got his paperwork squared away and now he's back and fully legal. My guess is his experience was significantly better than the average person in his situation.

[TripletDaddy]

What about self deportation? That sounds like a good idea.

Or sending home illegal parents and allowing the US-born minor child to remain in foster care. Another brilliant option.

[Northwestcoug]

Someone in our ward just self-deported, got his paperwork squared away and now he's back and fully legal. My guess is his experience was significantly better than the average person in his situation.

Having dealt with INS for close to 20 years, I would absolutely agree that his experience is not the norm.

[shoganai]

Amnesty is inevitable. There's simply no way around it. Trying to deport 10 million-plus illegal aliens would be a social, political, economic, and logistical disaster.

The only question is whether or not there are border closing measures, and legal immigration policy reform to go along with amnesty, when it happens.

I also think the church has known amnesty is coming for a while, and they've taken pretty remarkable steps to prepare for it, especially in PR terms.

[byu71]

So I see some of you now jumping on Hannity for changing his position?

Really, I guess Obama and dems have always been consistent on policies.

If Mathews changed and decided he was for tax cuts to grow the economy, I wouldn't be bad mouthing him for changing his position.

Not you Frank, but some of you and your trolling and later wanting to be taken seriously is comical.

[Indy Coug]

Amnesty is inevitable. There's simply no way around it. Trying to deport 10 million-plus illegal aliens would be a social, political, economic, and logistical disaster.

The only question is whether or not there are border closing measures, and legal immigration policy reform to go along with amnesty, when it happens.

I also think the church has known amnesty is coming for a while, and they've taken pretty remarkable steps to prepare for it, especially in PR terms.

The anti-amnesty people, IMO, aren't really for mass deportation, they just are against ever rewarding illegals with legal status simply because they managed to make it long enough without being deported.

However, if you award amnesty without being able to effectively control and monitor the influx of new illegals you find yourself perpetually awarding amnesty and legal immigration becomes even more obsolete than it already is.

For the record, I'm for some form of amnesty, a radical overhaul of the legal immigration system to streamline the process as well as significant increases in quotas or whatever mechanism is used to limit the quantity of immigrants.

[shoganai]

The anti-amnesty people, IMO, aren't really for mass deportation, they just are against ever rewarding illegals with legal status simply because they managed to make it long enough without being deported.

If you're never going to reward them for legal status for more or less that very reason, then mass deportation - either in bulk, or over time - is really the only other option.

The steps to curb illegal immigration are really so simple that history will ultimately view our politicians from about 1980 onward, as complete idiots for taking so long to get it done.

-Secure the border. Build a freaking fence and give border patrol the basic surveillance ability they need.

-Allow current illegals in the country a brief time frame (12 months or so), to come "out of the shadows" and apply for amnesty. They'll be approved as long as they can pass a basic criminal background check, and maybe a few other minimal screenings. If they can't pass the screening, or if they choose not to try, at the end of the window they will be subject to deportation from Sherriff Joe.

-Limit federal aid available to the illegals still remaining. If the states want to offer it, it's their money. Streamline the process for applying for citizenship. It doesn't have to be easy, but it shouldn't be slow and cumbersome. Offer simple paths to citizenship that encourage and facilitate the best and brightest to gain it more easily. These paths should include a term of active-duty military service, or obtaining certain graduate or undergraduate degrees from accredited US universities.