The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

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  • frank ryan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 12257

    #5866
    Meh

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    • Commando
      Explosivo
      • Feb 2009
      • 20748

      #5867
      Originally posted by YOhio View Post
      If the act is just a release of anger then by all means wave the Mexican flag. If persuasion is their aim then keep the flag at home. It's tough to look worse than Trump and his fans, but somehow the protestors manage to do just that.
      Hell no- those are Trump protesters. Trump accused Mexico of "not sending their best" and that Mexicans are a bunch of criminals and rapists. If they were protesting anything else it might be but it's very pertinent. I would much rather be affiliated with the Mexican flag than Donald Trump.
      "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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      • byu71
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 22070

        #5868
        Originally posted by Commando View Post
        Hell no- those are Trump protesters. Trump accused Mexico of "not sending their best" and that Mexicans are a bunch of criminals and rapists. If they were protesting anything else it might be but it's very pertinent. I would much rather be affiliated with the Mexican flag than Donald Trump.
        So you are one of those who are going to move if Trump gets elected and Mexico is your choice? I know two people who moved to Mexico and they are quite happy.

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        • Color Me Badd Fan
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 12519

          #5869


          I generally agree with this article except for the proposition that Hillary is "unfit for office but within normal parameters." I think Hillary's graft and blatant disregard for laws and the fact everyone is aware of this corruption during the entirety of this campaign makes it worse.

          I think this is partly what drives Bernie supporters and perhaps Bernie himself.

          I think Trump and Hillary are both unfit but for different reasons. And they're both outside the normal parameters of being unfit.

          Unfortunately, it's unrealistic that the Obama Justice Department gives the FBI the go ahead to officially prosecute Hillary unless the FBI finds a smoking gun quid pro quo showing Hillary granting favors through her SoS office for contributions to the Clinton Foundation and/or "speaking fees." I believe that the FBI is after that kind of information possibly even more so than finding out the extent of the intelligence leaks from Hillary's idiocy.

          Unlike the serious errors in judgment and illegality exhibited by Hillary's handling of classified information, which should resonate with all Democratic primary voters, blatant corruption moves the needle far more and makes the case against Hillary much more compelling.

          With Trump, two things stand out more than anything else-- his incuriousness and carelessness about the actual issues and his tendency to escalate fights. Both of Trump's traits in that regard are historically bad by presidential candidate standards.
          Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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          • Uncle Ted
            The Big 12 money shot.
            • Apr 2010
            • 28853

            #5870
            My rather republican wife got a call from the RNC last night asking for a donation. She, in short, told them that she would never support Drumpf and would be voting for her libertarian husband's candidates choices this year. I am so proud of her.
            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • HuskyFreeNorthwest
              Time to camp
              • Nov 2008
              • 26082

              #5871
              What's the relationship between Obama and Clinton like? I've always just assumed that win or lose Hillary would get a Jan 19th pardon.
              Get confident, stupid
              -landpoke

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              • frank ryan
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 12257

                #5872
                Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                What's the relationship between Obama and Clinton like? I've always just assumed that win or lose Hillary would get a Jan 19th pardon.
                Famously bad. They do not like each other. I could still see a pardon for political reasons. Michelle Obama can't stand Hillary too.
                Last edited by frank ryan; 05-26-2016, 08:17 AM.

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                • Shaka
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 10432

                  #5873
                  Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                  My rather republican wife got a call from the RNC last night asking for a donation. She, in short, told them that she would never support Drumpf and would be voting for her libertarian husband's candidates choices this year. I am so proud of her.
                  I agree. Mitt 2016!

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                  • Applejack
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 3812

                    #5874
                    Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                    I agree. Mitt 2016!
                    See if you can get YOhio and Goatnapper on board.

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                    • Topper
                      Pre-Historic Man
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 11764

                      #5875
                      Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                      My rather republican wife got a call from the RNC last night asking for a donation. She, in short, told them that she would never support Drumpf and would be voting for her libertarian husband's candidates choices this year. I am so proud of her.
                      The only worry I have is the Supreme Court. Hillary has stated Heller and probably McDonald, were wrongly decided. She intends to stack the Court to eliminate the Second Amendment as we know it. Given the other personal liberties she has disdain for, that makes voting strategic possible, even if Drumpf is otherwise disgusting.
                      "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                      Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                      • Commando
                        Explosivo
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 20748

                        #5876
                        Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                        So you are one of those who are going to move if Trump gets elected and Mexico is your choice? I know two people who moved to Mexico and they are quite happy.
                        It would be bad enough that there are enough idiots in the US to conceivably get Trump elected; how would it be if all the smart people left?
                        "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                        • byu71
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 22070

                          #5877
                          Originally posted by Topper View Post
                          The only worry I have is the Supreme Court. Hillary has stated Heller and probably McDonald, were wrongly decided. She intends to stack the Court to eliminate the Second Amendment as we know it. Given the other personal liberties she has disdain for, that makes voting strategic possible, even if Drumpf is otherwise disgusting.
                          I hear Trump go off on the govenor from New Mexico and I think, ok that's it I am voting for Hillary. However, the Supreme Court and Hillary being supported by one of the biggest bitches in the world, Lizzy Warren brings me back to Trump. No, I am not voting for a libertarian. I could sit on my butt at home and watch TV and have the same effect.

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                          • Maximus
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 5997

                            #5878
                            No, you go to the polls, you vote libertarian and the republican senate and house candidates.

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                            • frank ryan
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 12257

                              #5879
                              Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                              No, you go to the polls, you vote libertarian and the republican senate and house candidates.
                              I don't think it would be good for any of us if Trump gets elected and the GOP control both houses. We need a strong opposition regardless of who wins.

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                              • frank ryan
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 12257

                                #5880
                                Originally posted by Topper View Post
                                The only worry I have is the Supreme Court. Hillary has stated Heller and probably McDonald, were wrongly decided. She intends to stack the Court to eliminate the Second Amendment as we know it. Given the other personal liberties she has disdain for, that makes voting strategic possible, even if Drumpf is otherwise disgusting.
                                Der Donald isn't a big freedom guy. He is authoritarian.

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