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  • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
    I used to feel this way, but not so much anymore. I may be naively optimistic, but I doubt very much Iran would ever actually use a nuke, since it would mean the instant incineration of their country. And despite their religious fervor, I think the mullahs and everyone else in positions of power in Iran care more about their survival than what awaits them in paradise. But what if they were to slip a nuke into the hands of some terrorist? My thinking (or at least hope) is that they know the radioactive signature of a nuclear blast is traceable to its source, and that an Iranian nuke that's detonated by someone else will have the same consequences as one they delivered themselves. and thus they should be very careful about inventory leakage. We're back to mutually assured destruction, with the key players taking whatever steps are necessary to keep things in check.

    I'm still certain Iran wants nukes, and will get them, to maintain and burnish their rep as the key player in the Middle East. I just don't think they'll use them.
    Originally posted by BlueK View Post
    Agreed. N. Korea (and by that I mean their dictator) is currently acting scared, unstable and irrational. Iran, not really.
    Which country funds suicide bombers? MAD depends on rational actors on both sides. While N. Korea certainly isn't rational in the western sense of the word, the regime values self-preservation above all else. There are pragmatic actors in Iran, but there is also a fundamentalist wing with "higher" goals. Even if the leaders don't ever launch a scud at Israel, it isn't inconceivable that believers in the military could hand off something to terrorists.

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    • lol knock it off nobody cares about nk having nukes. the only place they can successfully deliver a nuclear payload is the sea of japan.
      Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        Come on, people. There was no poll. This guy writes a popular political satire column.
        Ha, burn on me.

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        • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
          lol knock it off nobody cares about nk having nukes. the only place they can successfully deliver a nuclear payload is the sea of japan.
          Maybe China or South Korea.

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          • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
            lol knock it off nobody cares about nk having nukes. the only place they can successfully deliver a nuclear payload is the sea of japan.
            One of the grandest benefits of the enlightenment was the realization that our moral sense must be based on the welfare of living individuals, not on their immortal souls. Honest and passionate folks can strongly disagree regarding spiritual matters, so it's imperative that we not allow such considerations to infringe on the real happiness of real people.

            Woot

            I believe religion has much inherent good and has born many good fruits.
            SU

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            • Heh. Exactly.

              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • John Kasich for President of the USA.

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                • He is the only person in the race I will give money to.

                  I would like to see the following 4 running. Walker, Bush, Rubio and Kasich This 16 person race is a joke with Trump as the court jester.

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                  • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                    He is the only person in the race I will give money to.

                    I would like to see the following 4 running. Walker, Bush, Rubio and Kasich This 16 person race is a joke with Trump as the court jester.
                    Here is my list:

                    Like
                    Bush
                    Kasich
                    Walker
                    Perry

                    Don't Like
                    Rand
                    Cruz
                    Trump
                    Huckabee
                    Santorum
                    Pataki

                    Like but don't support

                    Rubio (too soon)
                    Fiorina
                    Jindal
                    Graham

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                    • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                      Here is my list:

                      Like
                      Bush
                      Kasich
                      Walker
                      Perry

                      Don't Like
                      Rand
                      Cruz
                      Trump
                      Huckabee
                      Santorum
                      Pataki

                      Like but don't support

                      Rubio (too soon)
                      Fiorina
                      Jindal
                      Graham
                      You are obviously racist since Ben Carson isn't even on your list. I normally don't like to tell people what to do, but you should be ashamed of yourself.

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                      • I guess I should read through all 26 previous pages of comments to get an answer, but I'm wondering if there has been any signs that Huntsman might jump in again. Haven't heard a thing about him for a while.
                        Nothing lasts, but nothing is lost.
                        --William Blake, via Shpongle

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                        • Originally posted by Harry Tic View Post
                          I guess I should read through all 26 previous pages of comments to get an answer, but I'm wondering if there has been any signs that Huntsman might jump in again. Haven't heard a thing about him for a while.
                          Pataki is playing the Huntsman role this go around.

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                          • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                            He is the only person in the race I will give money to.

                            I would like to see the following 4 running. Walker, Bush, Rubio and Kasich This 16 person race is a joke with Trump as the court jester.
                            I like Paul but wouldn't give money to him. I think I would most likely donate to the Clinton Foundation (like Donald Trump) before donating to any of these jokers. Kasich does like a nice guy, however.

                            I wonder when Trump is going to release his tax returns.
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
                              You are obviously racist since Ben Carson isn't even on your list. I normally don't like to tell people what to do, but you should be ashamed of yourself.
                              I think Trump has taken some of the Carson support. There is an element that dislikes all politicians and hates the media. Trump appeals to them. I can empathize with them, but sending a message and ending up with Hillary is something stupid like the evangelicals did with Romney. We ended up with President Obama 4 more years.

                              It is not surprising to see the press basically lable Trump and his followers as wacko's and not afford Bernie Sanders the same status.

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                              • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                                I like Paul but wouldn't give money to him. I think I would most likely donate to the Clinton Foundation (like Donald Trump) before donating to any of these jokers. Kasich does like a nice guy, however.

                                I wonder when Trump is going to release his tax returns.
                                Sorry, there is no chance the repubs will elect a dude who likes dudes.

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