The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

[Northwestcoug]

Hillary won't make it to the second term. She's not a great candidate and will be an ineffective president. She shouldn't even be winning this election, but she will thanks to Trump and his populist movement. That populist movement will be gone in 4 years and a decent, establishment republican will run against her and win big. The GOP is dumb to squander this election but they won't squander the next...and they better not lose to Hillary again in 4 years or else they'll be going against Elizabeth Warren, who is a much better candidate and will likely win in 2024 barring an implosion between now and then.

I do not share your optimism. This was supposed to be a cakewalk for the GOP. They had a field of at least a dozen, which included a handful of governors. And we are stuck with jokes now. If they couldn't field a good candidate after 8 years of evil Obama, I'm not sure they can find a formidable one to defeat an incumbent. Even Hillary.

[byu71]

What are you implying about Mexicans?

Oh my gosh. Where did your low brow thinking automatically go?

[Uncle Ted]

I do not share your optimism. This was supposed to be a cakewalk for the GOP. They had a field of at least a dozen, which included a handful of governors. And we are stuck with jokes now. If they couldn't field a good candidate after 8 years of evil Obama, I'm not sure they can find a formidable one to defeat an incumbent. Even Hillary.

Maybe the Republicans need to adopt the Dem way of doing things: Add a big bunch of superdelegates that are hand picked by the establishment (that will pick the establishment's candidate) so their candidate always wins when some crazy shows up. This year isn't a good example of that, however. Bernie should have dropped out a long time ago but people keep throwing money at him so apparently he is saying, "What the hell... Let's have some fun."

[Topper]

Oh my gosh. Where did your low brow thinking automatically go?

What does he know about the inherent corruption in the ruling families of Mexico?

[Northwestcoug]

Maybe the Republicans need to adopt the Dem way of doing things: Add a big bunch of superdelegates that are hand picked by the establishment (that will pick the establishment's candidate) so their candidate always wins when some crazy shows up. This year isn't a good example of that, however. Bernie should have dropped out a long time ago but people keep throwing money at him so apparently he is saying, "What the hell... Let's have some fun."

Yeah, the Republican nominating process is a mess. But I can't understand how any democrat can support the concept of superdelegates is democratic. Here's the race so far:

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I saw a petition from moveon to ignore the superdelegates. Anyone can see why; without them Sanders has a decent chance of winning.

[All-American]

Yeah, the Republican nominating process is a mess. But I can't understand how any democrat can support the concept of superdelegates is democratic. Here's the race so far:

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I saw a petition from moveon to ignore the superdelegates. Anyone can see why; without them Sanders has a decent chance of winning.

As a republican, I wish we had super delegates this year.

[old_gregg]

but they won't squander the next...

sounds familiar

[Moliere]

I find it funny that Bernie is getting attacked for his comments on race and poverty. I guess that's what happens when you pander too much. It doesn't help that his vernacular is from the 1960s.

[USUC]

Hillary won't make it to the second term. She's not a great candidate and will be an ineffective president. She shouldn't even be winning this election, but she will thanks to Trump and his populist movement. That populist movement will be gone in 4 years and a decent, establishment republican will run against her and win big. The GOP is dumb to squander this election but they won't squander the next...and they better not lose to Hillary again in 4 years or else they'll be going against Elizabeth Warren, who is a much better candidate and will likely win in 2024 barring an implosion between now and then.

The hot mess that the GOP is going through will happen to the Democrats soon enough. Hillary is corrupt, unlikable, and a liar. And every Democrat knows it (Just look at the disruption an aging socialist has caused).But they choose to look past it because Trump is staring at them from the other side. The party that loses the White House is the first party that reforms. The next cycle will force the other party to change. Both parties are a mess.

[Moliere]

The hot mess that the GOP is going through will happen to the Democrats soon enough. Hillary is corrupt, unlikable, and a liar. And every Democrat knows it (Just look at the disruption an aging socialist has caused).But they choose to look past it because Trump is staring at them from the other side. The party that loses the White House is the first party that reforms. The next cycle will force the other party to change. Both parties are a mess.

Why does Hillary yell through every debate? I've seen bits and pieces of her debates and she's constantly yelling into the microphone with that grating voice. Even Bernie, who tells quite a bit, actually toned it down a bit here and there.

[myboynoah]

Why does Hillary yell through every debate? I've seen bits and pieces of her debates and she's constantly yelling into the microphone with that grating voice. Even Bernie, who tells quite a bit, actually toned it down a bit here and there.

If we learned anything from the Clinton Administration, it is that HClinton is a screamer, and a thrower, and a scratcher, and a hitter, and a lot more.

[Uncle Ted]

Republicans and Trump... Graham, unlike the state he represents, wants to kick him out of the party:

Graham: We should have kicked Trump out of the party


Republicans should have expelled Donald Trump from the Republican Party, Lindsey Graham said Monday.
The former presidential candidate told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer that the New York billionaire’s rhetoric toward immigrants has exacerbated the problem the GOP had with Hispanics in 2012.

“He took our problems in 2012 with Hispanics and made them far worse by espousing forced deportation,” Graham said. “Looking back, we should have basically kicked him out of the party.”

Asked how that would be done, the South Carolina senator suggested Republicans could have united against him like many are doing now.
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“As much as I disagree with Ted Cruz, if it came down to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz, I would be firmly in Ted’s camp because I think he really is a conservative,” he said.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-g...ked-out-220402

Add another nose holding endorsement for Ted.

Tech and republicans leaders have a secret meeting... 007 movie style:

Top tech CEOs reportedly join Republicans for secret meeting on private island

Some of the most powerful people in the technology industry met with Republican senators, party officials, and assorted billionaires on a private island last weekend, the Huffington Post reports, with the main topic of conversation being the rise of Donald Trump, and how best to stop him. Among those attending the event — the American Enterprise Institute's World Forum — were Apple CEO Tim Cook, Tesla and SpaceX boss Elon Musk, and Google co-founder Larry Page.


The secretive annual event, which takes place on Sea Island off the coast of Georgia, has traditionally been closed off to the press, but political commentator Bill Kristol filed a report from this year's proceedings, describing meetings haunted by "the specter of Donald Trump." Kristol said there was "much unhappiness about his emergence," from attendees, a guest list of top-tier Republicans including veteran strategist Karl Rove, House speaker Paul Ryan, and Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell.
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http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/8/111...secret-meeting

[myboynoah]

Republicans and Trump... Graham, unlike the state he represents, wants to kick him out of the party:



http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-g...ked-out-220402

Add another nose holding endorsement for Ted.

Why not? Just kick him out of the party.

Tech and republicans leaders have a secret meeting... 007 movie style:


http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/8/111...secret-meeting

Mitt leads, people follow.

[scottie]

Oh my gosh. Where did your low brow thinking automatically go?

Can someone explain to me 71's issues with JL? Inside joke?

[Bo Diddley]

Can someone explain to me 71's issues with JL? Inside joke?

Spoiler for spoiler:

Secretly they're both pretty close--a lot closer than either wants to admit publicly. So the back and forth between the two through the years is to throw us off.