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  • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
    I am with you.

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    • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
      I only have two categories.

      Candidates so awful, bad, corrupt and/or evil they don't merit consideration or discussion:
      Hillary
      Sanders
      Trump
      Cruz

      WORST TO LEAST WORST
      1. Rubio
      2. Kasich
      I'm like LeBron James.
      -mpfunk

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      • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
        I only have two categories.

        Candidates so awful, bad, corrupt and/or evil they don't merit consideration or discussion:
        Hillary
        Sanders
        Trump
        Cruz

        WORST TO LEAST WORST
        1. Rubio
        2. Kasich
        Yeah, that's pretty much it. I might put Clinton and Cruz in a "super awful, bad, etc." category, but I can live with your list

        Write in Mitt!
        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
          I am with you.
          Yeah me too.

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          • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
            Yeah, I know this makes you feel good. It's very predictable that you'd seize on this. Look, I read the New York Times regularly, listen to NPR. All of my news I get from demonstrably liberal outlets. They are overjoyed by this Trump phenomenon, and they helped create it! The NY Times has had multiple front page articles about Trump almost every day for over a year. The pattern was first shock and outrage but nevertheless disproportionate attention given to his crazy comments. In the past three months it's turned to (1) declaring Trump as a serious threat to win the Republican nomination and, more recently, its virtual inevitability, and (2) belittling his base. The subtext is that this is what the Republican party is--dirty, unwashed, out of work, ignorant, racist rednecks. Well, I don't think that's all what voted for him in Massachusetts (I recognize that there aren't only Harvard graduates in Mass). But as we see, for Trump, being notorious is good. The more attention you pay to him stronger he gets. And I don't trust the spin that the NY Times and NPR are giving him.

            They're having a jolly good time right now. But they'd better be careful about the monster they've been complicit in creating, because last night some more balanced analysts were starting to express surprise at the breadth of Trump's base. I'm reminded of Mel Brooks's The Producers.
            HAHA. You, LAUte, MyBoyNoah, BYU71 and I don't know who else are trying to pin the blame for Trump on "THE LIBERALS!" I know you want to believe this, but this is a wholly Republican phenomen. I have no opinion about whether it is the ignorant racists or the small government folks or the suburban housewives who are scared of ISIS or the northeast bluebloods that like Trump (it's probably a bit of everything). But, Trump is undeniably a republican creation. Pure and simple. Look at his appeal to democrats and independents (nil) if you need proof.

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            • Originally posted by Applejack View Post
              HAHA. You, LAUte, MyBoyNoah, BYU71 and I don't know who else are trying to pin the blame for Trump on "THE LIBERALS!" I know you want to believe this, but this is a wholly Republican phenomen. I have no opinion about whether it is the ignorant racists or the small government folks or the suburban housewives who are scared of ISIS or the northeast bluebloods that like Trump (it's probably a bit of everything). But, Trump is undeniably a republican creation. Pure and simple. Look at his appeal to democrats and independents (nil) if you need proof.
              lol. Typical liberal. Blame everyone else.

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              • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                I am mostly giving you s*** for saying the authoritarian explanation is simplistic when it seems to be extremely complex and layered.

                FTR, I don't think you are unintelligent.
                although, you might later regret stating the bolded on the record.

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                • My ranking:

                  YES, PLEASE:
                  Kasich

                  PROBABLY WON'T RUIN THE COUNTRY:
                  Rubio

                  NO THANKS:
                  Sanders
                  Hillary

                  MAKES MY STOMACH TURN:
                  Cruz

                  HOLY SHIT, THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING:
                  Trump
                  "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                  "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                  "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                  • Apologies if already posted:

                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                      HAHA. You, LAUte, MyBoyNoah, BYU71 and I don't know who else are trying to pin the blame for Trump on "THE LIBERALS!" I know you want to believe this, but this is a wholly Republican phenomen. I have no opinion about whether it is the ignorant racists or the small government folks or the suburban housewives who are scared of ISIS or the northeast bluebloods that like Trump (it's probably a bit of everything). But, Trump is undeniably a republican creation. Pure and simple. Look at his appeal to democrats and independents (nil) if you need proof.
                      His appeal to Democrats is evident in the open primary states, as opposed to the closed primary states where he lost three out of the four. Thus, evidence exists that Democrats are contributing to the Trumpster. Moreover, authoritarianism is more consistent with the statism of the Democratic Party, and Trumpster's authoritarian appeal is to those styling themselves as disenfranchised and thereby invoking traditional Democratic Party ideals to grab power.
                      "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                      Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                        My ranking:

                        YES, PLEASE:
                        Kasich

                        PROBABLY WON'T RUIN THE COUNTRY:
                        Rubio

                        NO THANKS:
                        Sanders
                        Hillary

                        MAKES MY STOMACH TURN:
                        Cruz

                        HOLY SHIT, THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING:
                        Trump
                        Kasich is possible only at a brokered convention, which even Alabama's governor recognized is increasingly unlikely but a number of states where he could do better are coming up.

                        Rubio has to win Florida and start doing better than Cruz. The fact he won Minnesota and won outside his normal region is heartening.
                        "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                        Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                        • Originally posted by Topper View Post
                          His appeal to Democrats is evident in the open primary states, as opposed to the closed primary states where he lost three out of the four. Thus, evidence exists that Democrats are contributing to the Trumpster. Moreover, authoritarianism is more consistent with the statism of the Democratic Party, and Trumpster's authoritarian appeal is to those styling themselves as disenfranchised and thereby invoking traditional Democratic Party ideals to grab power.
                          Yeah, that's it. Keep thinking that the open primary is the problem that created the Donald as the Republican front-runner.

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                          • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                            I only have two categories.

                            Candidates so awful, bad, corrupt and/or evil they don't merit consideration or discussion:
                            Hillary
                            Sanders
                            Trump
                            Cruz

                            WORST TO LEAST WORST
                            1. Rubio
                            2. Kasich
                            I like your characterizations of the candidates.

                            You omitted one who won't and couldn't win but whose positions make him part of the second group, Gary Johnson, former governor of New Mexico, running as the Libertarian Candidate. Perhaps you ignored him because Carson is a non-starter but allegedly still in the bookselling business.
                            "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                            Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                            • Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                              HAHA. You, LAUte, MyBoyNoah, BYU71 and I don't know who else are trying to pin the blame for Trump on "THE LIBERALS!" I know you want to believe this, but this is a wholly Republican phenomen. I have no opinion about whether it is the ignorant racists or the small government folks or the suburban housewives who are scared of ISIS or the northeast bluebloods that like Trump (it's probably a bit of everything). But, Trump is undeniably a republican creation. Pure and simple. Look at his appeal to democrats and independents (nil) if you need proof.
                              What the hell are you talking about?
                              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                              • Apologies if already posted.

                                2016: Trump won't win
                                2018: Trump can't do that
                                2019: Are you watching Hunger Games? I hope my district wins.
                                "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                                Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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