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  • TexTechCoug
    Carbonite
    • Nov 2010
    • 891

    #196
    I am on my phone, so this will lack a lengthy explanation. Simply put I don't place women's suffrage, black civil rights, the ongoing plight of Native Americans on the same playing field as gay marriage. I don't believe they are of similar scope and they certainly are not of the same degree.

    After the gay issue is resolved and everyone who opposed it is ashamed of their backwardness, I wonder who the next marginalized section of society will be?

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    • DU Ute
      RIP CUF
      • Dec 2008
      • 7393

      #197
      I am picking up salads from Cafe Rio. Are there any political repercussions I should be aware of?
      "In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
      "And you people wonder why you've had extermination orders issued against you." - landpoke
      "Can't . . . let . . . foolish statements . . . by . . . BYU fans . . . go . . . unanswered . . . ." - LA Ute

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      • Indy Coug
        Heartless Bastard
        • Dec 2008
        • 18747

        #198
        Originally posted by DU Ute View Post
        I am picking up salads from Cafe Rio. Are there any political repercussions I should be aware of?
        They employ illegal aliens.
        Everything in life is an approximation.

        http://twitter.com/CougarStats

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        • frank ryan
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 12278

          #199
          Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
          They employ illegal aliens.
          That is kind of a tough one. He would have to boycott all groceries and restaurants, even family farms.

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          • creekster
            It is NOT a monkey!
            • Nov 2008
            • 22661

            #200
            Originally posted by DU Ute View Post
            I am picking up salads from Cafe Rio. Are there any political repercussions I should be aware of?
            FM texts and says it is just a matter of intestinal fortitude.
            PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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            • UtahDan
              *
              • Nov 2008
              • 14496

              #201
              These are not points I could or would make, but I think it was interesting to see at least some Christians feeling discomfort over this:

              http://matthewpaulturner.net/blog/5-...led-yesterday/

              one

              Yesterday’s campaign, while I don’t think it should be considered or called “hate,” neither can it be called love. Christians all over America ignored the second greatest commandment: to love our neighbors. Call yesterday what you want, freedom of speech, a rally behind “family values,” a sincere fascination with CFA’s brand of fried poultry… but it cannot be called love. It was not love.

              two

              People felt hate and we ignored that. At the end of the day, regardless of whether or not your Christian understanding of scripture harbors hate or not, a large group of people felt hated. Again, we can debate this point all day long, but that does not change the fact that people felt hatred because of what happened yesterday. Whether or not hate actually existed is not the point, people felt hated. And rather than acknowledging those feelings or trying to understand or engage them in any way, Christians everywhere marched off to their local CFA like it was a cross to bear, a necessity, a battle cry of some sort, the waffle fry’s last stand.

              three

              By rallying behind CFA, Christians put an issue above people. And it’s impossible to follow Jesus when issues trump people. Jesus never said “love God, love causes.” That is not the message that gets preached in churches all over America on Sunday mornings. I’ve heard a hundred different explanations from patrons of yesterday’s rally and nearly every one of them gives precedence to “the cause”. We can’t embrace love, mercy, hope, and peace when our causes (or a place of business) trumps people.

              four

              Once again, the mass actions of Christians built another wall of distrust between the Church and the GLBTQ communities. Nobody was surprised that the CEO of CFA is against gay marriage. Nobody was surprised that Mike Huckabee made the decision to rally support behind CFA. And nobody was surprised that Christians took Huckabee’s words as marching orders, leading the charge with more passion, delight, and Instagram pictures than what we express for so many more important issues facing this country. If Mike Huckabee had declared yesterday “Homeless Appreciation Day,” would the response have been even half as large and loud? Yes, I know; that’s an unfair question. But we’re Christians, so we’re very familiar with the use of unfair questions to make a point.

              Once in a while, our culture needs to be surprised by how much we love people–all people. Once in a while, our culture needs to be overwhelmed with joy that we are involved in the greater story. Once in a while, our culture needs to see us being a part of the solution and not the problem. But yesterday? There were no surprises. And no surprises only builds more distrust, not peace, not grace, not hope, and not love.

              five

              Yesterday’s hoopla surrounding CFA did nothing to prove that Christians don’t hate gay people. Oh I know that most Christians will say, “I don’t hate gay people!!”

              But did supporting CFA Appreciation Day prove that?

              Trust me, I understand that most people who ate chicken sandwiches at CFA yesterday did not do that as an act of hate. I get that. And that’s cool and all, but did the act of going out of your way to CFA prove that to be true? Do you think that the GLBTQ communities believe you? Would you, if you were gay, believe you?

              Now before you answer that, remember that yesterday’s CFA Love Day was just one action in a long line of many. Because let’s face it: Christians go WAY out of their way to “hate the sin”–i.e., by voting against gay marriage, voting against civil unions, voicing their angst about gay people adopting children (just to list a few). Is it possible that Christians lose the ability to truly “love the sinner” because they’re so busy “hating the sin”? Do Christians put anywhere near the energy into “loving the sinner” as they do “hating the sin”?

              All I know is that the GLBTQ communities are becoming quite used to feeling unloved by Christians. And with good reason.

              How many times do we hear Christians say something like, “I don’t hate gay people. I may not agree with their lifestyle. But I don’t hate them… ”

              If you were gay, would you believe that? Think about it. Would you feel loved by somebody if they included rules, context, and/or explanations about your lifestyle every time they spoke about how much they don’t hate you? Only when talking about gay people do Christians feel the need to preface their “love” or “non-hate” with some variation of “I don’t agree with your lifestyle, but…” Christians don’t talk about any other group of people like that–only gay people.

              So, I want to believe Christians when they say “I don’t hate gay people.” But sometimes proof of that is necessary. And yesterday did not prove that. Honestly, yesterday proved little more than how shallow Christians can be sometimes.

              Not only did supporting CFA Appreciation Day declare that Christians believe that an issue is more important than people, that declaration was made by the mass consumption of junk food. That fact doesn’t need a punch line. It is a punch line.

              Yes, on some level, yesterday was successful. I’m sure that today CFA feels really loved. And I’m sure Mike Huckabee feels loved, too. And I’m sure lots of people, many Christians included, feel great pride for supporting the cause. But there’s also a large group of people, good people, people you might disagree with, that today, feel really unloved.

              If it’s true that Christians don’t hate gay people, today would be a really good day to prove it.

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              • Moliere
                One man.....one pie
                • Oct 2009
                • 27807

                #202
                Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                These are not points I could or would make, but I think it was interesting to see at least some Christians feeling discomfort over this:

                http://matthewpaulturner.net/blog/5-...led-yesterday/
                Thanks for posting. I wonder what sermons will be preached on Sunday. I hope some of the points above are made. I kind of wish I was speaking on Sunday.....okay I don't wish, but it would be a good time to make a point or two in a tactful way.
                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • creekster
                  It is NOT a monkey!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 22661

                  #203
                  Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                  Thanks for posting. I wonder what sermons will be preached on Sunday. I hope some of the points above are made. I kind of wish I was speaking on Sunday.....okay I don't wish, but it would be a good time to make a point or two in a tactful way.
                  IT's open mic week. Have at it.
                  PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                  • TexTechCoug
                    Carbonite
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 891

                    #204
                    Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                    These are not points I could or would make, but I think it was interesting to see at least some Christians feeling discomfort over this:

                    http://matthewpaulturner.net/blog/5-...led-yesterday/
                    Apparently supporting CFA = hating gays.

                    I can see the leap, but I simply don't agree.

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                    • Moliere
                      One man.....one pie
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 27807

                      #205
                      Originally posted by creekster View Post
                      IT's open mic week. Have at it.
                      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                      • UtahDan
                        *
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14496

                        #206
                        Originally posted by TexTechCoug View Post
                        Apparently supporting CFA = hating gays.

                        I can see the leap, but I simply don't agree.
                        That is the opposite of what he said.

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                        • Indy Coug
                          Heartless Bastard
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 18747

                          #207
                          Originally posted by TexTechCoug View Post
                          Apparently supporting CFA = hating gays.

                          I can see the leap, but I simply don't agree.
                          I hate Chicago's and Boston's mayors. I don't know if they're gay though.
                          Everything in life is an approximation.

                          http://twitter.com/CougarStats

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                          • LA Ute
                            Receiver of Memory
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 19512

                            #208
                            Chik-fil-A only recently got to L.A. and I became a fan right away. I was very impressed by their tasty food, attentive customer service, and their employees' friendliness. Things like that are no accident and reflect very favorably on management, IMO. One can even eat healthy there by choosing carefully.

                            I had no idea about the owner's politics. I just liked the food and service. After a while I noticed they were closed on Sundays and that made me think Mr. Cathy must be religious. Then this controversy erupted over his statement that he was "guilty as charged" as a supporter of traditional marriage.

                            I am going to keep eating at Chik-fil-A. I buy Ben & Jerry's ice cream because I like it, even though I disagree with the owners' politics. I go to Starbuck's because I can get an hour of free wi-fi, a good muffin, and hot chocolate in a nice environment. I don't care about the company's politics. I shop at Target even though they ban Salvation Army Santas at Christmas. I am sure I patronize companies who are big supporters of same-sex marriage, even though I am not. Generally, I think it is ridiculous to make a big deal of corporate leaders' political views. That's why I ate at Target (whoops!) Chik-fil-A last night. It was a fun, pleasant atmosphere, kind of like a big block party, even though I had to wait almost three hours for my chicken sandwich. I'll probably drop by Friday morning for breakfast and applaud the same-sex couples who show up for the all-day kissing demonstration. The Chik-fil-A employees will probably give them great customer service too. Free speech works both ways.

                            That is all, you morans.

                            Last edited by LA Ute; 08-02-2012, 07:39 PM.
                            “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                            ― W.H. Auden


                            "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                            -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                            "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                            --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                            • DU Ute
                              RIP CUF
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 7393

                              #209
                              Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                              Chik-fil-A only recently got to L.A. and I became a fan right away. I was very impressed by their tasty food, attentive customer service, and their employees' friendliness. Things like that are no accident and reflect very favorably on management, IMO. One can even eat healthy there by choosing carefully.

                              I had no idea about the owner's politics. I just liked the food and service. After a while I noticed they were closed on Sundays and that made me think Mr. Cathy must be religious. Then this controversy erupted over his statement that he was "guilty as charged" as a supporter of traditional marriage.

                              I am going to keep eating at Chik-fil-A. I buy Ben & Jerry's ice cream because I like it, even though I disagree with the owners' politics. I go to Starbuck's because I can get an hour of free wi-fi, a good muffin, and hot chocolate in a nice environment. I don't care about the company's politics. I shop at Target even though they ban Salvation Army Santas at Christmas. I am sure I patronize companies who are big supporters of same-sex marriage, even though I am not. Generally, I think it is ridiculous to make a big deal of corporate leaders' political views. That's why I ate at Target last night. It was a fun, pleasant atmosphere, kind of like a big block party, even though I had to wait almost three hours for my chicken sandwich. I'll probably drop by Friday morning for breakfast and applaud the same-sex couples who show up for the all-day kissing demonstration. The Chik-fil-A employees will probably give them great customer service too. Free speech works both ways.

                              That is all, you morans.

                              You were so blinded by hate you don't even know where you ate last night.

                              "In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
                              "And you people wonder why you've had extermination orders issued against you." - landpoke
                              "Can't . . . let . . . foolish statements . . . by . . . BYU fans . . . go . . . unanswered . . . ." - LA Ute

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                              • CardiacCoug
                                вот так штука
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 11013

                                #210
                                Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                                This a-hole decided it would be a great idea to film himself going through a Chic-Fil-A drive through and berating the Chic-Fil-A worker. His employer saw the video and promptly terminated him.

                                [YOUTUBE]bPLNgkP9nzc[/YOUTUBE]



                                I hope that was worth it King Douche.
                                The employee handled that really well. Funny that when she says "We'll always be happy to serve you" Adam thinks she's assuming he's gay and he feels the need to correct her. What a dummy -- he reveals himself as homophobic by defending himself against that assumption. LOL.

                                Glad he was fired.

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