Fidel gives Raul the slapdown

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  • myboynoah
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 21719

    #1

    Fidel gives Raul the slapdown

    Fidel Castro Rebukes Raul on U.S.

    I understand the thinking that somehow opening up relations with Cuba will affect change for the better there. I don't know that I agree all that much. Everyone but the U.S. have been going to and trading with Cuba. Staying at the private resorts, dumping in the hard currency, buying the subsidized sugar. Have we seen major progress? Is Cuban society any more open or free?

    Let's not kid ourselves. Only with the passing of Fidel will we see any significant movement.
    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
  • TripletDaddy
    sweet triple
    • Nov 2008
    • 58186

    #2
    Isn't that what the US is doing? Fidel will be dead in the next 10 years, so the US is positioning itself now. It is going to take a decade to fully open things up over there, anyway, if not longer.

    My impression is that this new approach is a long-term investment. I don't harbor illusions that it will cause drastic changes in the first couple of years.

    Although some US-Cubans would probably argue that the ability to send money and visit relatives as often as they would like IS a drastic change. I can see that argument.
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    • myboynoah
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 21719

      #3
      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
      Isn't that what the US is doing? Fidel will be dead in the next 10 years, so the US is positioning itself now. It is going to take a decade to fully open things up over there, anyway, if not longer.

      My impression is that this new approach is a long-term investment. I don't harbor illusions that it will cause drastic changes in the first couple of years.

      Although some US-Cubans would probably argue that the ability to send money and visit relatives as often as they would like IS a drastic change. I can see that argument.
      Well, it's been a longterm investment since Fidel took power. Nothing changes until he is gone. Maybe the isolation has had a positive effect and will hasten the opening when Fidel is gone.

      I have little problem with allowing greater interpersonal contact.
      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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      • TripletDaddy
        sweet triple
        • Nov 2008
        • 58186

        #4
        Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
        Well, it's been a longterm investment since Fidel took power. Nothing changes until he is gone. Maybe the isolation has had a positive effect and will hasten the opening when Fidel is gone.

        I have little problem with allowing greater interpersonal contact.
        Agreed.

        I was unclear. I view the recent actions as a more direct investment...talks of lifting the embargo and legitimately opening things up.

        You are right that nothing substantive and permanent will happen until Fidel is dead.

        I get the sense that Raul is all excited to for Fidel to move on so that he can become the new Presidente in the new democratic Cuba....then turn around and ask for more foreign aid.
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        • wuapinmon
          Soul Plumber
          • Dec 2008
          • 30690

          #5
          If you speak Portuguese, this is one of the best pieces I've ever read about Fidelist Cuba.

          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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