Here's hoping Robin finds a gig running PR for an abortion advocacy group.
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I just love how everyone on this board is 100% correct all the time. Except FMCoug."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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With all the expansion of rights (racial, gender, sexual) that has occurred in the 20th and 21st centuries, public acceptance has followed. Now evidence suggests that people are becoming more accepting of gay rights.
But there's one exception to this -- abortion. I'm conservative on some social issues, moderate in others, but I've always been against abortion. And after having my kids, it's only more so. Gallup came out with a poll where only 41% of the respondents called themselves pro-choice. It's been about 40 years since Roe v. Wade, this issue is never going away.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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Well said. It's unlikely that those nefarious zygotes will cease trampling on the rights of women by undergoing meiosis in fallopean tubes any time soon.Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View PostWith all the expansion of rights (racial, gender, sexual) that has occurred in the 20th and 21st centuries, public acceptance has followed. Now evidence suggests that people are becoming more accepting of gay rights.
But there's one exception to this -- abortion. I'm conservative on some social issues, moderate in others, but I've always been against abortion. And after having my kids, it's only more so. Gallup came out with a poll where only 41% of the respondents called themselves pro-choice. It's been about 40 years since Roe v. Wade, this issue is never going away.
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I'm right 60% of the time...every time...Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostI just love how everyone on this board is 100% correct all the time. Except FMCoug."They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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Let me begin by stating I believe the act of abortion itself to be repugnant and that in many cases the practice offends my humanity, but I also view it as necessary depending upon circumstances.
But at the same time I think that to argue against abortion on religious grounds is a losing argument. And I also think it should remain legal, safe, and rare.
Actually, the MAP either blocks implantation of a zygote or induces a menstrual period (spontaneous abortion/miscarriage) depending on the drug.Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
It is here that I personally draw the line. The morning after pill, to me, is okay. It is really no different than other forms of chemical birth control. It does not end life AFTER the combination of the three important components of reproduction have come together. Rather, it disrupts the union of the sperm, egg and host.
At which point is the central nervous system developed to a point at which it can register pain? There is a world of difference between 12 weeks post-implantation and 12 weeks post-birth.Originally posted by PortHowever, abortion, is different, in my mind. At that point, the egg, sperm and host have joined. All the ingredients are present and the embryo is undergoing mitosis...well on it's way to becoming an adult human. This path continues on for 9-ish months in the host and for 16-22 years after the embryo/baby is birthed. Why destroy it at 12 weeks post-implantation and not at 12 weeks post-birth?
This is the same specious argument that animal rights activists would make against lobster festivals in New England, claiming that boiling lobsters was 'animal cruelty'. One year a biologist at Harvard wrote a paper asserting that lobsters do not possess a CNS thus and cannot register pain, and that boiling them was less 'cruel' of a death than being pulled apart and eaten by a predator. And besides that, lobsters are yummy... The protests continued anyway.
Richard Dawkins compares the amount of pain experienced by a fetal human undergoing abortion as being orders of magnitude less than the pain experienced by an adult pig or cow in a slaughterhouse. I am not necessarily swayed by this analogy, but I can not dispute the science.
As a point of reference, I believe the gestational age at which abortion is legal in all cases should be moved down the scale a bit to a time preceeding the point of viability. This age of viability is currently a few weeks younger than the end of the second trimester, at which point abortion is still legal in most cases.
Back on topic. Bloomberg is a petty dictator, who happens to be the mayor of the greatest city on earth. The city will be better off when he is term-limited out of office.
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Stop it! This thread is about the stupidity of Bloomberg in attempting to bad sugary drinks.
I support the right of a woman to choose...to drink a 20 oz soda. --Iowahawk
Doesn't that capture the absurdity of Bloomberg's position? The guy supports a woman's right to do whatever she wants with her body, only so long as that doesn't include drinking a 17 oz soda? This is the word we live in? I'm not giving in so easily.
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If the government stopped subsidizing the corn farmers, chances are a 32oz soda would be too expensive for most people to buy on a regular basis.
FTR, I like Bloomberg."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Another case of we "smart" people know better than the rest of you dumb asses out there.
Now I will concede, perhaps that is true in some cases, but we are taking this to an extreme.
Take for instance my business. Some beaurocrat back in Washington or New York is making rules on how I can deal with my clients.
Why, because the public is too stupid to recognize whether they have an advisor that is good for them or not.
At what point in our history do you think Americans in general became stupid.
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When were you born?Originally posted by byu71 View PostAt what point in our history do you think Americans in general became stupid."I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
- Goatnapper'96
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Brilliant and succint.Originally posted by Jacob View PostStop it! This thread is about the stupidity of Bloomberg in attempting to bad sugary drinks.
I support the right of a woman to choose...to drink a 20 oz soda. --Iowahawk
Doesn't that capture the absurdity of Bloomberg's position? The guy supports a woman's right to do whatever she wants with her body, only so long as that doesn't include drinking a 17 oz soda? This is the word we live in? I'm not giving in so easily.
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