Obamacare and the Supreme Court

[PaloAltoCougar]

It's interesting that Obama and the Dems insisted throughout the legislative process that the mandate wasn't a tax, but that the Act was upheld only because, in effect, the mandate was a tax.

[Indy Coug]

...many will say with reason that the election was decided this day when the decision in Obamacare made clear that only voters could make the U-turn required.

Exactly.

[TripletDaddy]

Has anyone checked on EPU? Lifi? They must be having a rough day today

[Indy Coug]

Has anyone checked on EPU? Lifi? They must be having a rough day today

Who?

[PaloAltoCougar]

Has anyone checked on EPU? Lifi? They must be having a rough day today

Lifi should be fine. November 8, 2008 was the big day, so today is nothing new as we continue on our unstoppable collision course with prophecy. And who are we to try to thwart prophecy? His will be done.

[YOhio]

It's interesting that Obama and the Dems insisted throughout the legislative process that the mandate wasn't a tax, but that the Act was upheld only because, in effect, the mandate was a tax.

Lest the denizens of CUF ever forget...

[PaloAltoCougar]

Lest the denizens of CUF ever forget...

LOL. My Ivy-educated Jewish partner, who is remarkably conservative, comes into my office daily to regale me with Obama's latest outrage, and shakes his head as he recalls, yet again, that I voted for Barack Husein Obama.

And yet.... I am still satisfied I made the right choice back then. So there.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

I still think Erick Erickson is a toolbag, but I thought this was very good column:

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/0...-john-roberts/

The most important quote:

Oh, and as I mentioned earlier, because John Roberts concluded it was a tax, the Democrats cannot filibuster its repeal because of the same reconciliation procedure the Democrats used to pass it.

I'm no expert on Senate procedure, but apparently the Democrats won't be able to filibuster this thing when the GOP tries to repeal it. So Romney Presidency + a few more Senate Seats = No more Obamacare because it's a tax.

I'm not going to claim that Roberts thought along these lines, but there are certainly some interesting aspects to come out of this.

[SeattleUte]

Comments from Hugh Hewitt:

I have a question for you Reverand. How can the Interstate Commerce Clause support the Civil Rights Act's prohibition on a greasy spoon in Mississippi denying service to blacks but not the mandate? How can it support the EPA but not the mandate? Don't say you don't support these other laws either. What about Stare Decisis?

[SeattleUte]

It's interesting that Obama and the Dems insisted throughout the legislative process that the mandate wasn't a tax, but that the Act was upheld only because, in effect, the mandate was a tax.

It remains interesting to me that you voted for Obama. I don't have that explaining to do.

[YOhio]

It remains interesting to me that you voted for Obama. I don't have that explaining to do.

Don't bother him about it. He's still at peace with the decision.

[PaloAltoCougar]

It remains interesting to me that you voted for Obama. I don't have that explaining to do.

It becomes easier to explain when one considers the alternative: a good man but one who, in the meltdown in the second half of 2008, admitted he knew nothing about economics, offered no guidance or suggestions on how to stop the hemorraging, gave the people little hope for a change (even if the hope instilled by his opponent was illusory), and thought Sarah Palin would be the best possible choice as his successor.

[Indy Coug]

It becomes easier to explain when one considers the alternative: a good man but one who, in the meltdown in the second half of 2008, admitted he knew nothing about economics, offered no guidance or suggestions on how to stop the hemorraging, gave the people little hope for a change (even if the hope instilled by his opponent was illusory), and thought Sarah Palin would be the best possible choice as his successor.

It was a horrible decision to make, so I didn't vote.

[kimchicoug]

It becomes easier to explain when one considers the alternative: a good man but one who, in the meltdown in the second half of 2008, admitted he knew nothing about economics, offered no guidance or suggestions on how to stop the hemorraging, gave the people little hope for a change (even if the hope instilled by his opponent was illusory), and thought Sarah Palin would be the best possible choice as his successor.

And currently my Senator! :igiveup: :swear:

[Color Me Badd Fan]

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2012/06...-american.html

Ann Althouse is one of my favorite bloggers out there. Like PAC, she also voted for Obama and now the regret seems to ooze out even though she won't admit completely admit she was in error.

I have said repeatedly that Obama would be worse off if Obamacare were upheld, but what I'm really seeing is how bad it is for him with the mandate declared a tax.

Remember the Democrats got the statute passed by insisting it was not a tax. Now, we learn it is only constitutional because it is a tax. That's got to hurt politically.

ADDED: Romney has at least 3 big arguments:

1. Obama imposed a huge new tax on working people.

2. Obama deceived the American people by saying it was not a tax, when it was.

3. The law made it look like money would go to insurance companies — in the form of new premiums — that would keep premiums low as the companies were required to take on people with pre-existing conditions, but now we find out that the money is really going to go to the federal government. [ADDED: So get ready for your premiums to spiral up and/or for insurance companies to be ruined.]