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Originally posted by Moliere
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where did you get that?
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where did you get that?
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Of course, to Obama you only call it a tax if that doesn't hurt its constitutionalityOriginally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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The same place you got an insinuation that IPU is against the development of alternative energy sources.Originally posted by camleish View Post where did you get that?"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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Originally posted by Moliere View PostOf course, to Obama you only call it a tax if that doesn't hurt its constitutionality
I've never called higher prices a tax. Those were his words."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear LeaderComment
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Yes, Obama needs to give more loans/bailouts to "promising" new green energy companies. That will help offset all this negative press he is getting of these increases in gas "taxes".Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
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oh, so from his post:Originally posted by Moliere View Post
he didn't say pushing green energy to the exclusion of fossil fuel energy, just that pushing green energy in policy leads to higher gas prices. that is an extreme.As for policies, how about pushing green energy;Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.Comment
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Ha, that came out wrong. I meant that HE only calls it a tax if it helps HIM. If it doesn't, then it's simply a fee, like the mandateOriginally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
I've never called higher prices a tax. Those were his words.
"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear LeaderComment
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Il Pad is owning Maoliere and camaoleish on this thread!"In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
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Originally posted by DU Ute View Post I'm with IPU on this one.
Edit: I can't believe I said that. In fact, I've now said today that I'm with IPU and Rambam. Heaven help me
"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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i must have missed the latest piece of legislation subtitled "a means to cripple the economy by establishing energy policies to limit oil/coal energy."Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
yes, i am absolutely saying that. it is not a zero sum game in terms of subsidization, and if anything a stable source of alternative energy shifts demand downward. this is all not to mention the foreign policy question of fossil fuels as well. edit: we're also ignoring the climate change debate; we're understandably hesitant to saddle future generations with a monstrous deficit, but there's an alarmingly large proportion of folks who are willing to do irreversible damage to the world around us.Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostLast edited by old_gregg; 02-24-2012, 11:46 AM.Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.Comment
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The perception will be that he is fine with high gas prices. The original plan was cap and trade, but this will have the same effect.
[YOUTUBE]UD6mgmq3--I&feature=player_detailpage[/YOUTUBE]One of the grandest benefits of the enlightenment was the realization that our moral sense must be based on the welfare of living individuals, not on their immortal souls. Honest and passionate folks can strongly disagree regarding spiritual matters, so it's imperative that we not allow such considerations to infringe on the real happiness of real people.
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I believe religion has much inherent good and has born many good fruits.
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What else could possibly happen to the economy until a viable clean energy exists? It may not be explicitly implied, but it's an inevitable effect to the economy. Gas prices go up and so does the cost of everything else.Originally posted by camleish View Post
As for man made global warming, there may be a connection to fossil fuels, but the earth coming out of the ice age is proof that the earth doesn't need man to do anything to make the planet warmer. But global warming is another topic. I'm talking about how Obama's policies have pushed gas prices higher and how his comments about it being like another tax is a result of his own doing. He can't claim to be for lower taxes for everyone but the rich and not try to avoid responsibility for everyone paying more for gas."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear LeaderComment
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One of the grandest benefits of the enlightenment was the realization that our moral sense must be based on the welfare of living individuals, not on their immortal souls. Honest and passionate folks can strongly disagree regarding spiritual matters, so it's imperative that we not allow such considerations to infringe on the real happiness of real people.
Woot
I believe religion has much inherent good and has born many good fruits.
SUComment
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