Roots of Democratic racism and race-mongering

[oxcoug]

Since the Democratic Party's electoral strategy always includes plenty of race-play - and since it was the party of segregation well into the 1960s - I thought there should be a thread for discussing it.

[wuapinmon]

Since the Democratic Party's electoral strategy always includes plenty of race-play - and since it was the party of segregation well into the 1960s - I thought there should be a thread for discussing it.

Great idea. Please take the time to support this with evidence. A great start would be the Great Society debates during the Johnson Administration.

Also, you, apparently, did not read the NYT article I linked in the other thread that showed how the former Democrats became Republicans once black people started trending Democrat.

[RobinFinderson]

Democrats were the torchbearers of partisan racism for a long time. I would like to believe that the same internal fire that inspired me to reject Mormonism, because of its homophobia, would have inclined me toward Republicanism if I had been alive in Lincoln's day. Presently, neither party has an 'enlightened' view on race.

[Topper]

But Democrats are most supportive of improved economic status of the disadvantaged ethnic groups. Democrats are sensitive to the economic needs of the disadvantaged while Republicans taunt and ridicule them. There must be a reason why African Americans vote uniformly for Democrats and almost uniformly reject Republican candidates.

[RobinFinderson]

But Democrats are most supportive of improved economic status of the disadvantaged ethnic groups. Democrats are sensitive to the economic needs of the disadvantaged while Republicans taunt and ridicule them. There must be a reason why African Americans vote uniformly for Democrats and almost uniformly reject Republican candidates.

I would word it differently, but you are essentially correct. Black Americans are disproportionately poor, and Democrats tend to support policies that make 'poor' more comfortable for the people who are stuck there, and the Democrats tend to support (marginally) better educational policy for helping the children of the poor to attain a brighter future. That is why Black Americans tend to vote Democratic. Oh... there is also the fact that the most overt racists today tend to make their home in the GOP. As the saying goes, you probably aren't a racist if you are a Republican, but if you are a racist, you are probably a Republican.

[venkman]

I would word it differently, but you are essentially correct. Black Americans are disproportionately poor, and Democrats tend to support policies that make 'poor' more comfortable for the people who are stuck there, and the Democrats tend to support (marginally) better educational policy for helping the children of the poor to attain a brighter future. That is why Black Americans tend to vote Democratic. Oh... there is also the fact that the most overt racists today tend to make their home in the GOP. As the saying goes, you probably aren't a racist if you are a Republican, but if you are a racist, you are probably a Republican.

[Topper]

I would word it differently, but you are essentially correct. Black Americans are disproportionately poor, and Democrats tend to support policies that make 'poor' more comfortable for the people who are stuck there, and the Democrats tend to support (marginally) better educational policy for helping the children of the poor to attain a brighter future. That is why Black Americans tend to vote Democratic. Oh... there is also the fact that the most overt racists today tend to make their home in the GOP. As the saying goes, you probably aren't a racist if you are a Republican, but if you are a racist, you are probably a Republican.

The GOP don't give a crap about the poor, because they are essentially Austrian in terms of economic philosophy, "do nothing lest your intervention harm us later." Why else would a leading GOP presidential candidate be so proud of his Austrian economic principles. It's a thinly-veiled effort to shun the poor even more.

[oxcoug]

while Republicans taunt and ridicule them

Are you trolling or did you actually say something this general and stupid with a straight face?

There must be a reason why African Americans vote uniformly for Democrats and almost uniformly reject Republican candidates.

Um, yes. It's pretty simple - cherche la money.

Since the late 60s the Democratic Party has been the party that has aligned itself with every policy and program that the core of black leaders have favored - i.e. every program that promises money and benefits. Welfare expansion, affirmative action, restitution for slavery and pretty much everything that bestows public benefits on a large number of African Americans.

I wouldn't make the case that all of those programs are invalid - though some are terribly implemented policies - but there's no mystery in why the black voting block defaults to Democratic candidates.

[oxcoug]

The GOP don't give a crap about the poor, because they are essentially Austrian in terms of economic philosophy, "do nothing lest your intervention harm us later." Why else would a leading GOP presidential candidate be so proud of his Austrian economic principles. It's a thinly-veiled effort to shun the poor even more.

Oh - OK. You did mean to say something that general and stupid. Appreciate the clarification.

[Topper]

Oh - OK. You did mean to say something that general and stupid. Appreciate the clarification.

What policies has the GOP adopted to help the poor?

[San Juan Sun]

What policies has the GOP adopted to help the poor?

Voting Obama out of office.

[oxcoug]

What policies has the GOP adopted to help the poor?

You are clearly out of your depth.

How about the biggest entitlement expansion in the history, the 2003 Medicare Modernization Act - pushed through by none other than George W. Bush and (disastrously, stupidly) with the support of a Republican Congress.

How about the American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003?

But never mind that stuff - the real way the GOP helps the poor is in the fact that pro-growth economic policies are the only way to create an environment where "the poor" become upwardly mobile. The GOP favors pro-growth policies that create opportunity.

[RobinFinderson]

Voting Obama out of office.

lol! That isn't policy. That is a goal.

[Topper]

You are clearly out of your depth.

How about the biggest entitlement expansion in the history, the 2003 Medicare Modernization Act - pushed through by none other than George W. Bush and (disastrously, stupidly) with the support of a Republican Congress.

How about the American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003?

But never mind that stuff - the real way the GOP helps the poor is in the fact that pro-growth economic policies are the only way to create an environment where "the poor" become upwardly mobile. The GOP favors pro-growth policies that create opportunity.

Medicare is for aged and for the disabled, not for the poor. Nice try.

[oxcoug]

Medicare is for aged and for the disabled, not for the poor. Nice try.

Cute.

You make a ridiculous assertion - that Republicans have never pursued policies intended to help poor people - which barely merits a response but which I (probably wasting my time) indulged, and then you think you have some kind of win when you can dismiss one response as not being primarily targeted to assisting the poor (even though it is meant to do exactly that - even if it helps people who aren't exactly "poor" at the same time).