SOPA

[SCcoug]

Is anyone else following the SOPA debates? The more I hear about it the more it sounds like a nightmare.

[TripletDaddy]

posole with an S and without Fritos. no debate.

[SCcoug]

This blog sums up my feelings on it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...RUwO_blog.html

[Tim]

Oxcoug: Will Fora be joining in the blackout tomorrow?

[Katy Lied]

Lebowski: Will CUF be joining the blackout tomorrow?

[TripletDaddy]

Utah fans: will the Utes be joining in the blackout tomorrow?

[Katy Lied]

Well, wikipedia is indeed blacked out today.

Google's home page is pretty funny, in honor of the blackout.

[Pheidippides]

You can, however, use wikipedia to look up SOPA.

[Uncle Ted]

Google's home page is pretty funny, in honor of the blackout.

Not in Canada: http://www.google.ca/ Maybe this is a hint of what would happen...

Every year I attend an invitation-only technical conference that use to be hosted in the United States. Because of federal government regulations such as fingerprinting everyone coming into the US this conference has been permanently moved to a location outside of the United States. If bills like this were to become law it would give more of an incentive to not create an internet based company in the US so it wouldn't have to comply with these federal regulations.

Also, SOPA will just fragment the DNS system (how domain names get translated to IP addresses) and move more internet traffic outside of the US. In addition, it will increase the insecurity and instability of the internet. The internet is really not that secure and it just gives hacker groups a new cause.

[Surfah]

Not in Canada: http://www.google.ca/ Maybe this is a hint of what would happen...

Every year I attend an invitation-only technical conference that use to be hosted in the United States. Because of federal government regulations such as fingerprinting everyone coming into the US this conference has been permanently moved to a location outside of the United States. If bills like this were to become law it would give more of an incentive to not create an internet based company in the US so it wouldn't have to comply with these federal regulations.

Also, SOPA will just fragment the DNS system (how domain names get translated to IP addresses) and move more internet traffic outside of the US. In addition, it will increase the insecurity and instability of the internet. The internet is really not that secure and it just gives hacker groups a new cause.

Only the American version of Wiki is blacked out. I did my part on Facebook and updated my profile pic.

[Katy Lied]

Not in Canada: http://www.google.ca/ Maybe this is a hint of what would happen...

Every year I attend an invitation-only technical conference that use to be hosted in the United States. Because of federal government regulations such as fingerprinting everyone coming into the US this conference has been permanently moved to a location outside of the United States. If bills like this were to become law it would give more of an incentive to not create an internet based company in the US so it wouldn't have to comply with these federal regulations.

Also, SOPA will just fragment the DNS system (how domain names get translated to IP addresses) and move more internet traffic outside of the US. In addition, it will increase the insecurity and instability of the internet. The internet is really not that secure and it just gives hacker groups a new cause.

Hey Uncle,

If traffic is moved outside the US, doesn't that make a more robust, ultra-national internet? Yeah, fragmented and yeah, more inefficient, but don't we want the internet to exist beyond the control of any one government?

(Not that I am in favor of SOPA, but if internet traffic moves offshore, doesn't that escape the censorship from any one nation? I am conflating this thread with Jennerstein's thread that touches on Chinese government censorship of the internet- Doesn't seem like it's that successful).

[Pheidippides]

My old law firm is on the list of companies supporting it. Eff em. Every one of them.

[Katy Lied]

My old law firm is on the list of companies supporting it. Eff em. Every one of them.

They do a lot of Intellectual Property work?

[Pheidippides]

They do a lot of Intellectual Property work?

No, not really. Just did some more background reading and it looks like they were put on the list by mistake because of lobbying efforts or something.

Not that I am okay with them lobbying for this cesspool of a bill. If this passes, I will personally donate as much money as I can afford to whoever Lamar Smith's opponent is next election cycle.

[Uncle Ted]

Hey Uncle,

If traffic is moved outside the US, doesn't that make a more robust, ultra-national internet? Yeah, fragmented and yeah, more inefficient, but don't we want the internet to exist beyond the control of any one government?

The fragmentation has to do with the DNS system. If the government tries to regulate the existing DNS system a new one will most likely pop up over night. End users would migrate (slowly at first) to the new system. Domain name registrars will have to register domain names with both systems. It is possible that domain names may not exist on both systems.

Yes, it is true that a good amount of the internet traffic flows within the US boarders. What I am talking about is internet companies starting up or moving (completely?) outside the US. (Think about the impact on jobs.) Silicon Valley may migrate to Canada if the government adds too much regulation. The US may become more of a consumer rather than a producer of internet content.

(Not that I am in favor of SOPA, but if internet traffic moves offshore, doesn't that escape the censorship from any one nation? I am conflating this thread with Jennerstein's thread that touches on Chinese government censorship of the internet- Doesn't seem like it's that successful).

Trying to regulate internet traffic at the boarders is hard to do. Place like China and Iran are examples of this.