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So we're going to have a general election with an AA and a Mormon in the finals for president, and hardly a whisker of genuine difference between them in what they really believe. This may the the first time in my life when I'm truly surprised by something. I never thought I'd see such a thing.Originally posted by UtahDan View PostI think the difference between Obama and any Republican who is moderate enough to get elected is not great.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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C. None of the above.Originally posted by byu71 View PostHere is a major difference between Obama and Romney.
Obama has to kiss Nanci Pelosi's ass.
Romney will have to kiss Sarah Palin's.
Who do you think will have a clearer mind with which to govern.Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”
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McCain=Obama=GWB=GHWB=Carter=Nixon=... (I am not entirely sure where to put Clinton and Reagan in that mix)Originally posted by UtahDan View PostI think the difference between Obama and any Republican who is moderate enough to get elected is not great.
How funny would it be if McCain had won and we were in precisely the same situation in which we currently find ourselves? The media on the right would be eating their own, and on the left they would still complain but would comment about how 'common sense the president became'.
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The President posing with world leaders in the Open Government Partnership gathering at the United Nations:
“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View PostI think she is a wanker. Does that make me a sexist or open minded since I think Wuap, SIEQ and pelligrino are also wankers?
I worked long and hard for that title. don't denigrate it.Originally posted by Katy Lied View PostWhat has Pellegrino ever done that simulated wankerdom?
truer words were never spoken.Originally posted by creekster View PostIt is never simulated with Pellegrino.
and we love you for it.Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View PostI make it my mission in life to insult every academic at real universities.Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
God forgives many things for an act of mercyAlessandro Manzoni
Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.
pelagius
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Uh... yeah.Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
Hey Hey! Can he do that?
If someone reveals a personal detail about me that I have chosen to not make public (even if done in a highly flattering case like this) I reserve the right to edit it out. I would do that for anyone if requested, btw. Including you."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Here's an interesting take on Obama the campaigner vs Obama the president.
Obama’s campaign was about more than particular policies. He ran on a platform that famously promised change and hope. His tremendous political achievement was in framing those concepts in such a way that they were interpreted by voters to mean precisely what they wanted them to mean without committing Obama to specific policies. To the anti-war faction it meant that the wars would end. To those concerned about unilateralism it meant that unilateralism would be replaced by multilateralism. To those worried about growing inequality it meant that he would end inequality. To those concerned about industrial jobs going overseas it meant that those jobs would stay in the United States. To those who hated Guantanamo it meant that Guantanamo would be closed.
Obama created a coalition whose expectations of what Obama would do were shaped by them and projected on Obama. In fact, Obama never quite said what his supporters thought he said. His supporters thought they heard that he was anti-war. He never said that. He simply said that he opposed Iraq and thought Afghanistan should be waged. His strategy was to allow his followers to believe what they wanted so long as they voted for him, and they obliged. Now, this is not unique to Obama. It is how presidents get elected. What was unique was how well he did it and the problems it caused once he became president.
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Pete Wehner:
I have written before about Obama’s deep, almost desperate, need to portray himself as the opposite of what he is, to conceive of himself in a way that is at odds with reality. We have seen it in all sorts of areas, including claiming himself to be a voice of civility, portraying himself as a champion of bi-partisanship, lecturing others about profligate spending, and saying he is the only responsible “adult” in Washington. Now we see this habit in a new arena – this time, the president as Obama the Stoic, a man so committed to “pressing on” for the cause of social justice he just doesn’t have time to feel sorry for himself. Indeed, he has now decided to sermonize to others not to complain, not to grumble, and to “stop crying.”
This is akin to John Edwards hosting a weekend seminar on the importance of marital fidelity.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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This was the first thing I ever noticed about Obama, even before he started running for president. He was talking about abortion, and can off as so reasonable, that almost anyone on either side of the issue could have believed him to have been agreeing with them.Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View PostI think Obama was a brilliant campaigner because his style was almost parabolic in that folks could read into his rhetoric what they wanted to read. This resulted in constituencies with varied expectations, some of which was mutually exclusive of each other.
But for me, it was pretty easy to see through after thinking it through for a moment. Fortunately for Obama, most voters couldn't see through it.
I think you must be insane. Name a Republican who is moderate enough to get elected and we can start to list the huge gaps between their preferred policies.Originally posted by UtahDan View PostI think the difference between Obama and any Republican who is moderate enough to get elected is not great.
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Hilarious.Originally posted by kccougar View Post
Washington, California, and Colorado(??)"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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