Leaving Iraq...finally

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  • il Padrino Ute
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 19161
    #31
    Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
    I have no problem that it's taken him long at all. We should be leaving. I just think he underestimated, as did GWB, how long it would take to get the security forces in Iraq stablized. We'll see truly how effective that 'stablization' is when the last of our troups leave. If utter chaos ensues than we have our answer.
    I agree that Obama had no idea what the situation was when he campaigned on the promise to get the troops out. When he became privy of what was going on, I'll give him credit for realizing that he had been talking out of his backside and stuck to the plan.
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      • il Padrino Ute
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 19161
        #32
        Originally posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
        What about Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, <Fillintheblank>istan, etc? Why not talk about those places as well? We have ongoing actions in those countries.

        While we are at it, perhaps we need to pull out of Germany and Korea too. I am a big supporter of the military, but question why we have people on 710 bases in 130 different countries as an act of 'defense'.
        Amen. It's past time for us to be the defenders of the world. Close the bases, unless the other countries want to fund them to keep them open.
        "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


        "I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader

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          • taekwondave
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 1160
            #33
            Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
            Besides where do you get 1,000,000 from?
            LMGTFY

            Page not found
            http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/1-over-one-million-iraqi-deaths-caused-by-us-occupation/
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            reuters.com
            http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/01/30/us-iraq-deaths-survey-idUSL3048857920080130


            Just a moment...
            http://www.accuracy.org/release/1537-one-million-iraqis-killed/


            U.S. Media Ignores Estimate of 1 Million Iraqi Deaths
            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/us-media-ignores-estimate_b_60396.html
            The media have largely ignored the question of the overall death toll from the U.S. invasion -- so it's little surprise that they have ignored our attempt to shine a light on this question.
            Last edited by taekwondave; 09-07-2011, 01:25 PM.

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              • Goatnapper'96
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 10927
                #34
                Originally posted by taekwondave View Post
                LMGTFY

                Page not found
                http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/1-over-one-million-iraqi-deaths-caused-by-us-occupation/
                That page is not here. Start from the homepage or search the site.


                reuters.com
                http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/01/30/us-iraq-deaths-survey-idUSL3048857920080130


                Just a moment...
                http://www.accuracy.org/release/1537-one-million-iraqis-killed/


                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert...e_b_60396.html
                Well that is difficult to argue with.
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                  • Blueintheface
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 15382
                    #35
                    Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                    I agree that Obama had no idea what the situation was when he campaigned on the promise to get the troops out. When he became privy of what was going on, I'll give him credit for realizing that he had been talking out of his backside and stuck to the plan.
                    Yeah, things always look different when you're actually sitting in on those meetings rather than just reading the minutes.
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                      • Walter Sobchak
                        Adventurer
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 3815
                        #36
                        Finally leaving? President Trump wants us out... if only he was powerful enough to do it.
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                          • Uncle Ted
                            The Big 12 money shot.
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 28853
                            #37
                            Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
                            Finally leaving? President Trump wants us out... if only he was powerful enough to do it.
                            Well, Warmonger McCain isn't around any more to make a stink... maybe he can do it now. Of course, the Dems have taken over as the Warmongers now so maybe not.
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                              • Moliere
                                One man.....one pie
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 27915
                                #38
                                Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
                                Finally leaving? President Trump wants us out... if only he was powerful enough to do it.
                                He tried to get out of Syria and the war living Dems said no. I doubt they’ll let him leave Iraq.
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                                  • Jeff Lebowski
                                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                                    • Nov 2008
                                    • 69789
                                    #39
                                    Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                                    He tried to get out of Syria and the war living Dems said no. I doubt they’ll let him leave Iraq.
                                    He got pushback from both parties.
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                                      • Commando
                                        Explosivo
                                        • Feb 2009
                                        • 20748
                                        #40
                                        At least ISIS is defeated!
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                                          • Walter Sobchak
                                            Adventurer
                                            • Oct 2009
                                            • 3815
                                            #41
                                            Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                                            He tried to get out of Syria and the war living Dems said no. I doubt they’ll let him leave Iraq.
                                            You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
                                            Almost everything you post is snarky, smug, condescending, or just downright mean-spirited. --Jeffrey Lebowski

                                            Anyone can make war, but only the most courageous can make peace. --President Donald J. Trump
                                            You furnish the pictures, and I’ll furnish the war. --William Randolph Hearst

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