Un-raw-ful?

[taekwondave]

http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/04/wh...roy-inventory/

[NorthwestUteFan]

This is unbelievably disgusting to me. I cannot believe they are even being charged with anything. I thought we lived in the "Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave". However in many ways we are far LESS free in our day-to-day lives than Mexico, Central/South America, or China, e.g. we are being regulated to death at every turn "for our own good".

They were charged with, among other thing, "conspiracy to commit a felony", the 'felony' being the selling of unpasteurized cow and goat milk. The man was being held on $180k(!) bail, which was reduced to $30k after they saw the protests outside the courthouse. The FDA and state agencies have spent over $1M building a case against him.

Growing up I loved staying to my uncle's father's dairy farm in Idaho because the food was SO good. Fresh eggs, fresh bacon, fresh veggies from the garden, and fresh milk straight from the milking shed. Never once did I worry that it wasn't pasteurized.

I have absolutely no idea why this agency will not allow a group of people to freely purchase raw milk and organic produce from a co-op, unless they are acting to protect grocery stores at the behest of lobbyists. Can somebody tell me how this neighborhood co-op could possibly fall under federal jurisdiction (interstate commerce?)?

Any Foodie will recognize that certain cheeses can NOT be made from pasteurized milk, Romano and Parmesan among them. This is the reason ALL good Romanos and Parmesans are imported, and NONE are made in the USA.

For the record the feds also recently raided an organic farm here in Washington, and have been hassling an Amish farmer in Penn over the same issue. Perhaps it is time to begin defunding the FDA, among many other overreaching agencies.

[taekwondave]

I used to buy raw milk from a store in north Orem just off State Street. Loved the stuff. I thought the problems I noticed from drinking milk might go away if it wasn't pasteurized. It was pretty much the same for me from what I could tell, so I switched to rice milk. You DID have to sign a waver there when you bought it though. Not every time. Just once, and then they had you in a system and you could just give them your name to look up every time. Cool place. It's crazy on Saturdays. There is a pretty decent following of people eager for this stuff in Utah Valley, I have to say.

My uncle is a huge milk drinker too. His whole life he's been fat as hell and he's had these weird growths all over his skin. He's a little...slow so he still lives with my 88 year old Grandma who still basically takes care of him. She switched out the regular milk for the raw and the guy's skin cleared up and he lost over sixty lbs in about six months. Very strange. It was what made me want to try it in the first place.

Anyway, even though I don't drink it anymore, this article makes my blood turn up a few degrees. I don't like stuff like this.

[Uncle Ted]

I grew up on raw milk but now pretty much hate milk. My father would sell raw milk to people that wanted to buy it. The american dairy association (aka. the dairy "union") or someone like that didn't care for it much but my father would just tell them he wasn't selling it for human consumption. I remember him saying something like it is not his problem if people are drinking the dog food that he was selling. This guy, I suspect, should have done the same thing. He would have saved himself a lot of trouble.

[NorthwestUteFan]

The problem with that is they didn't just destroy the milk. They also hauled away trucks loaded with watermelons, vegetables, etc. I do not understand why they are going so far out of their way to save us from ourselves.

Ironically the government heavily subsidizes big agriculture through farm subsidies, most of which goes to very large corporations (and not the local family farm as intended). The FDA allows all kinds of genetically modified, steroid-filled, pesticide-laden foods to be sold with very few warnings, but try to sell some raw foods through a local co-op and they throw the book at you.

Note: I don't drink much milk, and I prefer to drink pasteurized (simply because I don't know the farmer who provided the milk to know if his cows are sick, etc), but if somebody else wants to do this why should any of the rest of us care? And why is the selling of unpasteurized milk a FELONY?

The following quote is appropriate:

"The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."

-Ayn Rand

[BlueHair]

Milk is for babies. Once mama takes her titties away, it's time to move on to big kid drinks.

[taekwondave]

Watch the video here:

http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=C3E8939361903F2070B97B579F08F7F5

[UtahDan]

I saw someone on facebook getting up in arms about this. As I understand it, there are two major problems with raw milk, the first being that it can carry pathogens such as the E. Coli. virus.

Second, though related, it is among the leading carriers of antibiotic resistant bacteria.

People always scream "individual choice" when they don't like statutory or regulatory schemes. But when someone's kid gets sick and dies and or communicates the disease to other kids people will (rightly IMO) ask "where the hell was the government on this?" Does anyone want to seriously argue that there shouldn't be protections in place to keep dangerous food off the market?

[Babs]

Is there any chance this is really an IRS case? I wouldn't be surprised to see the feds gate-crashing over tax evasion.

[il Padrino Ute]

I saw someone on facebook getting up in arms about this. As I understand it, there are two major problems with raw milk, the first being that it can carry pathogens such as the E. Coli. virus.

Second, though related, it is among the leading carriers of antibiotic resistant bacteria.

People always scream "individual choice" when they don't like statutory or regulatory schemes. But when someone's kid gets sick and dies and or communicates the disease to other kids people will (rightly IMO) ask "where the hell was the government on this?" Does anyone want to seriously argue that there shouldn't be protections in place to keep dangerous food off the market?

It all depends on what the cows are fed and collection and storage of the milk. If the cows are fed organic grass or alfalfa and the milk is collected and stored in a clean facility, raw milk is no less safe than anything else.

[Slim]

I saw someone on facebook getting up in arms about this. As I understand it, there are two major problems with raw milk, the first being that it can carry pathogens such as the E. Coli. virus bacteria.

Second, though related, it is among the leading carriers of antibiotic resistant bacteria.

People always scream "individual choice" when they don't like statutory or regulatory schemes. But when someone's kid gets sick and dies and or communicates the disease to other kids people will (rightly IMO) ask "where the hell was the government on this?" Does anyone want to seriously argue that there shouldn't be protections in place to keep dangerous food off the market?

E Coli is a bacterium. Not a virus.

[marsupial]

Damn the man. This seems a little too invasive. Personally, I would love access to raw milk.