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  • il Padrino Ute
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 19161
    #1

    Obama and the two state solution...

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/....palestinians/

    I disagree with Obama about this, but am happy as hell that he has made his thoughts known. He's going to alienate the Jewish supporters he had in the '08 election.

    I'm curious to know if what the reporter is saying in the first two paragraphs is true, or if it's just his opinion.

    President Barack Obama on Thursday made official the long-held but rarely stated U.S. support for a future Palestinian state based on borders that existed before the 1967 Middle East war.

    In the past, the United States has unofficially backed a two-state solution to the Israel-Palestinian conflict based on the borders in place prior to the war 44 years ago in which Israel seized the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Golan Heights and Sinai Peninsula.
    Has the US unofficially backed a two-state solution based on the borders pre-1967? I don't believe that is true, as I've done several searches in google and other engines trying to find anything like that. I could be wrong, but if so, I'd like to see some proof of it.
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    • myboynoah
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 21719
      #2
      Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
      http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/....palestinians/

      I disagree with Obama about this, but am happy as hell that he has made his thoughts known. He's going to alienate the Jewish supporters he had in the '08 election.

      I'm curious to know if what the reporter is saying in the first two paragraphs is true, or if it's just his opinion.



      Has the US unofficially backed a two-state solution based on the borders pre-1967? I don't believe that is true, as I've done several searches in google and other engines trying to find anything like that. I could be wrong, but if so, I'd like to see some proof of it.
      I suspect the U.S. has unofficially backed a number of solutions over the years hoping one would work.
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        • Maximus
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 6040
          #3
          Tu
          Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
          http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/....palestinians/

          I disagree with Obama about this, but am happy as hell that he has made his thoughts known. He's going to alienate the Jewish supporters he had in the '08 election.

          I'm curious to know if what the reporter is saying in the first two paragraphs is true, or if it's just his opinion.



          Has the US unofficially backed a two-state solution based on the borders pre-1967? I don't believe that is true, as I've done several searches in google and other engines trying to find anything like that. I could be wrong, but if so, I'd like to see some proof of it.
          In his speech he never said pre 1967. So that is not true. His position is the same as Bush and Clinton.

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            • TripletDaddy
              sweet triple
              • Nov 2008
              • 58186
              #4
              I expect Jews to flee en masse from the Democratic ticket and cast their vote for the Republican candidate now. That is a very distinct possibility,, especially in critical electoral college states such as New York and California.
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                • dabrockster
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 11006
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                  Tu

                  In his speech he never said pre 1967. So that is not true. His position is the same as Bush and Clinton.
                  I thought in his speech he in fact said pre-1967 borders. I could be wrong..

                  http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110520/ts_nm/us_obama_mideast_netanyahu_6

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                    • Borderline Divine
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 598
                      #6
                      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      I expect Jews to flee en masse from the Democratic ticket and cast their vote for the Republican candidate now. That is a very distinct possibility,, especially in critical electoral college states such as New York and California.

                      The ADL came out strongly in favor of the speech yesterday.
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                        • Jeff Lebowski
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                          • Nov 2008
                          • 69805
                          #7
                          Good for him.
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                            • falafel
                              loves to talk on things
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 38030
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Borderline Divine View Post
                              The ADL came out strongly in favor of the speech yesterday.
                              That's not defamation. They've exceeded their scope. Bad form.
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                                • Flattop
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                                  • Jun 2009
                                  • 1452
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                                  Tu

                                  In his speech he never said pre 1967. So that is not true. His position is the same as Bush and Clinton.
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                                    • il Padrino Ute
                                      Junior Member
                                      • Nov 2008
                                      • 19161
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Borderline Divine View Post
                                      The ADL came out strongly in favor of the speech yesterday.
                                      Link?
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