All the new details of UBL's death....

[CJF]

Does it change anything for you? Now the information is that he was unarmed, didn't use his wife as a human shield, was shot in front of his 12 year old daughter. I am still happy that he is gone, but I would have preferred he not have been executed what now appears to be Tony Soprano Big Pussy style. I'm a little conflicted.

[Surfah]

Does it change anything for you? Now the information is that he was unarmed, didn't use his wife as a human shield, was shot in front of his 12 year old daughter. I am still happy that he is gone, but I would have preferred he not have been executed what now appears to be Tony Soprano Big Pussy style. I'm a little conflicted.

It doesn't change my opinion at all. I just don't understand why the circumstances were not reported accurately to begin with.

[creekster]

It doesnt bother me.

[Jacob]

Does it change anything for you? Now the information is that he was unarmed, didn't use his wife as a human shield, was shot in front of his 12 year old daughter. I am still happy that he is gone, but I would have preferred he not have been executed what now appears to be Tony Soprano Big Pussy style. I'm a little conflicted.

Not at all. I was happy about it for 1 reason...that he was dead. That fact hasn't changed.

Navy Seals ran a fast operation, at night, deep in quasi-enemy territory, after having to blow up their copter, and killed our arch-enemy without pausing first to ask many questions.

I don't see the problem.

[Guest]

Not at all. I was happy about it for 1 reason...that he was dead. That fact hasn't changed.

Navy Seals ran a fast operation, at night, deep in quasi-enemy territory, after having to blow up their copter, and killed our arch-enemy without pausing first to ask many questions.

I don't see the problem.

Yup.

[smokymountainrain]

I feel bad for the 12 year old girl. Ideally, she wouldn't have had to witness the shooting, but not being there, it's hard to judge either way.

[CJF]

Not at all. I was happy about it for 1 reason...that he was dead. That fact hasn't changed.

Navy Seals ran a fast operation, at night, deep in quasi-enemy territory, after having to blow up their copter, and killed our arch-enemy without pausing first to ask many questions.

I don't see the problem.

Well, one problem is that they did stop to ask about 12 or 13 people questions. They hand cuffed the non-combatants and left them there for the Pakistani police to take care of after they were done questioning them. It now appears UBL was also a non-combatant.

Like I said, I'm happy he's gone. I felt a lot more justified in him being shot in the head when I thought he was using a woman for human shields and firing back. I'm not trying to be a bleeding heart here. I'm glad he got what he ultimately deserved, but justice is justice and just because everyone wanted him dead, that doesn't make it justified in how it happened.

[BigFatMeanie]

Supposedly it was always a "kill mission" from the start - not a "capture" mission.

Doesn't change my feelings about it one bit.

[Indy Coug]

Does it change anything for you? Now the information is that he was unarmed, didn't use his wife as a human shield, was shot in front of his 12 year old daughter. I am still happy that he is gone, but I would have preferred he not have been executed what now appears to be Tony Soprano Big Pussy style. I'm a little conflicted.

The upside is we didn't kill his wife and 12 year old daughter.

[smokymountainrain]

The upside is we didn't kill his wife and 12 year old daughter.

After having to witness such a brutal shooting of a loved one, they might rather be dead.

[byu71]

Not even a twinge of feeling bad.

He got a far better deal than most of the people's deaths he caused. They suffered, some tortured, beheadings et. al.

He probably knew what was coming and mentally suffered 20 minutes at the most. I hope he shit his pants so he was a bit uncomfortable when he took the bullet.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I find these discussions puzzling. This is Osama freakin' Bin Laden we are talking about. The biggest terrorist in the history of terrorism.

[Jacob]

Well, one problem is that they did stop to ask about 12 or 13 people questions. They hand cuffed the non-combatants and left them there for the Pakistani police to take care of after they were done questioning them. It now appears UBL was also a non-combatant.

Like I said, I'm happy he's gone. I felt a lot more justified in him being shot in the head when I thought he was using a woman for human shields and firing back. I'm not trying to be a bleeding heart here. I'm glad he got what he ultimately deserved, but justice is justice and just because everyone wanted him dead, that doesn't make it justified in how it happened.

Nobody made that argument. But I'm unclear on what your standard is in this case. Considering the facts you cite about them taking care not to kill all the non-combatants, I'm not sure why you think "how it happened" was wrong. We don't have all the facts. It could be that they ordered everyone to get on the ground and Osama refused and got shot.

Anyway, I'm not sure that grouping UBL as a non-combatant with the other women and children in the compound makes any sense as you have done. He is an enemy combatant. Of that, there is no doubt, whether he was armed or unarmed at the time.

You say "justice is justice" but I don't know what you mean by that, unless you mean that UBL got justice because, as you said, he deserved it.

[Jacob]

After having to witness such a brutal shooting of a loved one, they might rather be dead.

Or they might be dancing on his grave. Who knows?

[Maximus]

Arent all who lived there guilty of harboring a known terrorist/criminal? Shouldn't everyone in the house be arrested? edit: besides the minors.