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    When he was Stake President in Boston, he had a WOMAN as his executive secretary. Called and set apart. Completely verboten, but he did it anyway.

  • #2
    Originally posted by statman View Post
    When he was Stake President in Boston, he had a WOMAN as his executive secretary. Called and set apart. Completely verboten, but he did it anyway.
    Really? I wonder what Mama Romney thought of that.
    Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BlueHair View Post
      Really? I wonder what Mama Romney thought of that.
      I doubt his mom cared.

      I've stated before that the first thing I'm doing if I'm ever bishop is calling a woman to be the Sunday School President. There is no reason this is a male only calling other than the fact that it takes no real effort to fulfill.
      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
        There is no reason this is a male only calling other than the fact that it takes no real effort to fulfill.


        Just last month I had to ask a ward member to act as a late substitute for a class when the teacher didn't show up. No real effort. Why I outta...:slap:

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
          I doubt his mom cared.

          I've stated before that the first thing I'm doing if I'm ever bishop is calling a woman to be the Sunday School President. There is no reason this is a male only calling other than the fact that it takes no real effort to fulfill.
          Huh, that is the only big time position I have ever held in the church.

          Well except when they split the Akron Zone into the Akron and Cleveland Zones and I became the Cleveland ZL. Why is that significant? Cleveland is actually a mission now. My leadership skills have been vastly underutilized since then, except the stint as SS President.

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          • #6
            On that note, does the RS pres have to be a woman? It would be wild to call a man to be RS Pres. Probably would piss off the feminists, actually.
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            • #7
              I noticed Mitt was a bit of a renegade when we were in the Mission Home together.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                I noticed Mitt was a bit of a renegade when we were in the Mission Home together.
                lol
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                  Huh, that is the only big time position I have ever held in the church.

                  Well except when they split the Akron Zone into the Akron and Cleveland Zones and I became the Cleveland ZL. Why is that significant? Cleveland is actually a mission now. My leadership skills have been vastly underutilized since then, except the stint as SS President.
                  Did you ever serve in the branch in Wooster, OH?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                    I noticed Mitt was a bit of a renegade when we were in the Mission Home together.
                    My dad served in France with Mitt. there is our 4 degrees of separation.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
                      Did you ever serve in the branch in Wooster, OH?
                      No, but I was the DL in Canton and Wooster was in my District. I didn't switch off with the Elders there too much though because I had to spend most of my time with the two Elders (BYU guys) over in Alliance.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                        I noticed Mitt was a bit of a renegade when we were in the Mission Home together.
                        Mitt and I served in the same mission.
                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                          On that note, does the RS pres have to be a woman? It would be wild to call a man to be RS Pres. Probably would piss off the feminists, actually.
                          No requirement for a female RS President....although I'd love if the requirement was for someone that doesn't hold the PH.
                          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
                            No requirement for a female RS President....although I'd love if the requirement was for someone that doesn't hold the PH.
                            Ward Relief Society President

                            The Relief Society president has the following responsibilities:

                            She serves as a member of the ward council. As a member of this council, she participates in efforts to build faith and strengthen individuals and families (see chapter 4).
                            https://lds.org/handbook/handbook-2-...ty?lang=eng#92

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                            • #15


                              I'll go out on a limb and say that a man can serve as a RS president, however a woman cannot serve as EQP. I realize no man would ever be called to that position (at least not nowadays - I've stories about it happening in small branches in Europe in the 1950s/60s) but it could happen.
                              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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