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That is a very good op-Ed (not the the Oracle needs my approval). I didn't like TARP but I also think it was the lesser evil. It's nice to see him give props to Bush, who really did lead the country through that time when he could have just sat back and do nothing for his last couple months."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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I know some of the extremists within the Tea Party crowd are anti TARP, but I was of the opinion that it had mainstream support among all political flavors. Sort of like the Iraq War in 2003.Originally posted by Eddie Jones View PostDo Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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Bob Bennett's TARP vote was one of the main reasons he lost his seat in the Utah GOP convention.Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View PostComment
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If we hadn't passed TARP, we might actually be in better shape right now. On the other hand if we didn't pass TARP we might be in an all out depression and economic collapse.
I wouldn't want a do over to see if maybe not passing it would have turned out better.
Kind of reminds me of those who now claim Bush was mistaken for going to war with Iraq. Well, how do you know for sure. Maybe both Iraq and Iran would be in a race to get the nukes right now.Comment
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The Utah Caucaus is a stupid method of electing party reps for the primary. If Bob Bennet is in the primary he wins, if Bob Bennet is in the election as an independent he wins. Bennet was run out by a gang of disproportionately empowered delegates who represent that minority bat shit crazy right wing of the Tea Party. Obviously with the RI and Nevada debacles, this gang has some clout but I think as the emotions subside so will their clout. Nothing more than right wing populism.Originally posted by YOhio View Post
My point is if Bennet got to any general election where the disproportionate power of the wackos was marginalized by the voting masses he would win handily in very conservative Utah.Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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I agree, and I would add Alaska, Deleware, and Colorado to your list of states that the Tea Party canidate caused heart burn.Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
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It was time for Bennet to go.
IMO Congress shouldn't be a lifetime career for anybody."We should remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school."
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You have just described why the Utah Caucus system is so great.Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View PostComment
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It's no surprise that the Oracle is pleased with TARP and the like. He benefited as much or more than anyone.Comment
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Why was it time for him to go? Over voting for TARP? The overwhelming majority of economists I have read on the subject believed TARP was the best thing to do given the circumstances. Was it time for Bennet to go because he had the audacity to work with Sen Ron Wyden to put together a health care reform bill that had the chance of being bi-partisan and far superior than the one we got?Originally posted by Devildog View Post
One aspect of the Tea Party that makes me chuckle is the demand for term limits. That is a right wing populist effort to surrender individual liberties for the government to protect us all. An engaged and voting electorate can end anybody's career in DC. I know you are not advocating term limits, or perhaps you are, but I just don't think they are the way to go. Beyond the efforts to have Big Brother protect us, in a way we can protect ourselves, it would lead to our government being even more run by lobbyists and bureacrats.
I thought Senator Bennet had been a very good Senator for Utah. If there was one who needed to go it was he who sings duets with Sister Janice Kapp Perry. But I don't vote in your state. Here in Idaho we just got our mormon percentage of the delegation to 75%, albeit one is very much a Jack.Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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I like aspects of the Tea Party. I like really conservative Senators. I prefer they not go overnight from a witch to anti-masturbation Evangelical ministers.Originally posted by happyone View Post
I think we conservatives need to realize that we will not get a strong majority of conservatives in the Senate. You can have very conservative Senators from South Carolin, Idaho or even Texas. You can't have very many from Colorado or Delaware.
But that lesson is being learned and Mrs Palin is being marginalized into TLC reality shows that are so "flippin' fun!" She does have a nice ass for a 50 year old!Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
-DOCTOR WuapComment
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It has always amazed me that so many in politics would rather have no loaf than half a loaf. My opinion agrees with the late William Buckley - you nominate the most conservative canidate WHO CAN WIN. It does absolutely no good to nominate someone who is idologically pure, but has no chance of winning - re DelewareOriginally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
This sentiment applies to left also. It is really amuses me to hear the Democrats in Utah complain about Mathison not being Democratic enough, when if they nominated anyone idologically pure, he would lose in a landslide.Last edited by happyone; 11-17-2010, 12:59 PM.
I may be small, but I'm slow.
A veteran - whether active duty, retired, or national guard or reserve is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to, "The United States of America ", for an amount of "up to and including my life - it's an honor."Comment
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