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  • #16
    I tried to link it but it won't work, the reference is 25 P.S. § 3060 and if you are willing to look can be found here: http://government.westlaw.com/linked...sp?SP=PAC-1000



    (a) Until the polls are closed, no person shall be allowed in the polling place outside of the enclosed space at any primary or election, except the watchers, voters not exceeding ten at any one time who are awaiting their turn to vote, and peace officers, when necessary for the preservation of the peace. No elector shall be allowed to occupy a voting compartment or voting machine booth already occupied by another, except when giving assistance as permitted by this act.


    (b) No elector, except an election officer, clerk, machine inspector or overseer, shall be allowed to re-enter the enclosed space after he has once left it, except to give assistance as provided by this act.


    (c) No person, when within the polling place, shall electioneer or solicit votes for any political party, political body or candidate, nor shall any written or printed matter be posted up within the said room, except as required by this act.


    (d) All persons, except election officers, clerks, machine inspectors, overseers, watchers, persons in the course of voting, persons lawfully giving assistance to voters, and peace and police officers, when permitted by the provisions of this act, must remain at least ten (10) feet distant from the polling place during the progress of the voting.


    (e) When the hour for closing the polls shall arrive, all qualified electors who have already qualified, and are inside the enclosed space, shall be permitted to vote; and, in addition thereto, all those qualified electors who are in the polling place outside the enclosed space waiting to vote and all those voters who are in line either inside or outside of the polling place waiting to vote, shall be permitted to do so, if found qualified.


    (f) It shall be the duty of the judge of election to secure the observance of the provision of this section, to keep order in the voting room, and to see that no more persons are admitted within the enclosed space than are permitted by this act. The judge of election may call upon any constable, deputy constable, police officer or other peace officer to aid him in the performance of his duties under this section.
    It would appear that electioneering is not permitted within the polling place, and that all persons other than voters, election officials and law enforcement must stay ten feet from the polling place.

    Interestingly, neither "electioneering" nor "polling place" are defined terms within the PA code. Anyway, it would seem that our Black Panther if fine to electioneer as long as he is ten feet away from the polling place. But without a definition of polling place it is hard to know whether he is. Is it the building? The piece of land it sits on? The room within the building (imagine a big building serving lots of other purposes)? Not clear.

    EDIT: I take it back. 25 P.S. § 2602.


    (q) The words "POLLING PLACE" shall mean the room provided in each election district for voting at a primary or election.
    Last edited by UtahDan; 11-03-2010, 10:15 AM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by falafel View Post
      What do you search with it then? That's like saying you've got the newspaper, but you only use it to swat flies.
      Well, my college has access to it. I usually only use it for finding old newspaper articles. I'm sure other profs have more of a reason to break it out, but you can use Lexis for a lot more than case searches.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by falafel View Post
        What do you search with it then? That's like saying you've got the newspaper, but you only use it to swat flies.
        Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
        Well, my college has access to it. I usually only use it for finding old newspaper articles. I'm sure other profs have more of a reason to break it out, but you can use Lexis for a lot more than case searches.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
          Well, my college has access to it. I usually only use it for finding old newspaper articles. I'm sure other profs have more of a reason to break it out, but you can use Lexis for a lot more than case searches.
          Yeah, I know. I agree with Lost Student, I doubt you've got access to the entire Lexis Nexis case law and statute database, because you'd never really need it. But maybe you do, if they give universities really cheap rates. It may even be free to the law schools, so maybe you do.
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          • #20
            Interesting. 10 feet is pretty close quarters.

            If the voting machines were right through the front doors of the building in the video, then he is still probably violating the 10 foot rule.

            If the machines were further inside the building, that Black Panther is free to pounce, baby!
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            • #21
              Good for the black panthers! I'm glad to see that they are getting involved in their local political scene. I am also glad to see that they didn't bring weapons, even though it is their constitutional right to bear arms, because doing so in public, near a polling place, is a douche-bag move that makes people feel uncomfortable. Apparently the guy being interviewed chose to get up in the black panther's face and try to distract him from his important job of informing the public with pamphlets. This was unwanted, and the black panther eventually made this known in an impolite way, though it seems that he was careful not to threaten any physical harm against the confrontational white dude.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by falafel View Post
                Yeah, I know. I agree with Lost Student, I doubt you've got access to the entire Lexis Nexis case law and statute database, because you'd never really need it. But maybe you do, if they give universities really cheap rates. It may even be free to the law schools, so maybe you do.
                That's a screen capture of what mine looks like. I'm not exceedingly familiar with it.
                http://courses.coker.edu/jwilliams/a/lexis.docx
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                The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                • #23
                  I heart Robin.

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                  • #24
                    Here is something to think about... if a Black Panther was standing a legal distance from a polling place, legally handing out pamphlets, in a primarily black neighborhood, would that be news? Of course not. That this was news at all is evidence of a very ugly streak of racism.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
                      Here is something to think about... if a Black Panther was standing a legal distance from a polling place, legally handing out pamphlets, in a primarily black neighborhood, would that be news? Of course not. That this was news at all is evidence of a very ugly streak of racism.
                      That and the fact that our Department of Justice decided not to prosecute the same Black Panthers for stuff they did at the same polling place in the last election - in a case that they had already won. Holder decided unilaterally that Black Panthers with clubs outside a predominantly white polling place is not voter intimidation. I wonder if skinheads outside a polling location in Harlem would get the same treatment. Kind of a silly question really...

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