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  • But these doomsday scenarios have always been way more fiction than science. For some time now, an alleged warming link to extreme weatherhas been the only card left in the climate alarm deck. Climate activists repeatedly assert that severe droughts, floods, and Hurricane Sandy are now the “new normal,” and, of course, they blame fossil fuels and “climate change.”

    Actual weather data do not support that storyline either. There has been no long-term change in the strength or frequency of hurricanes, tornadoes, U.S. floods, or drought. Similarly, there has been no long-term change in “normalized” extreme weather damages (weather-related losses adjusted for increases in population, wealth, and inflation).

    The IPCC has come around to that overall assessment too. Among the findings in chapter 2 of the IPCC report:

    • “Current datasets indicate no significant observed trends in global tropical cyclone frequency over the past century … No robust trends in annual numbers of tropical storms, hurricanes and major hurricanes counts have been identified over the past 100 years in the North Atlantic basin.”

    • “In summary, there continues to be a lack of evidence and thus low confidence regarding the sign of trend in the magnitude and/or frequency of floods on a global scale.”

    • “Based on updated studies, AR4 [the 2007 IPCC report] conclusions regarding global increasing trends in drought since the 1970s were probably overstated.”

    • “In summary, confidence in large scale changes in the intensity of extreme extra-tropical cyclones since 1900 is low.”

    University of Colorado Prof. Roger Pielke, Jr., a key participant in the debate on climate change and extreme weather, explains the IPCC’s non-alarming findings as follows: “the data says what it says, and what it says is so unavoidably obvious that the IPCC has recognized it in its consensus.”

    Pielke, Jr.’s summary comment is worth quoting in full: “Of course, I have no doubts that claims will still be made associating floods, drought, hurricanes and tornadoes with human-caused climate change -- Zombie science -- but I am declaring victory in this debate. Climate campaigners would do their movement a favor by getting themselves on the right side of the evidence.”
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/...gency-is-over/
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    • Ha. A clever example of cherry-picking, strawman-building, and obfuscation. Perfect for Fox News!

      This will take a long time to play out.

      http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthr...l=1#post978915
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      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        Ha. A clever example of cherry-picking, strawman-building, and obfuscation. Perfect for Fox News!

        This will take a long time to play out.

        http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthr...l=1#post978915
        Triple threat!
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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          Ha. A clever example of cherry-picking, strawman-building, and obfuscation. Perfect for Fox News!

          This will take a long time to play out.
          Can I get you honest take on the quotes from the IPCC?

          Were these actual quotes?
          • “Current datasets indicate no significant observed trends in global tropical cyclone frequency over the past century … No robust trends in annual numbers of tropical storms, hurricanes and major hurricanes counts have been identified over the past 100 years in the North Atlantic basin.”

          • “In summary, there continues to be a lack of evidence and thus low confidence regarding the sign of trend in the magnitude and/or frequency of floods on a global scale.”

          • “Based on updated studies, AR4 [the 2007 IPCC report] conclusions regarding global increasing trends in drought since the 1970s were probably overstated.”

          • “In summary, confidence in large scale changes in the intensity of extreme extra-tropical cyclones since 1900 is low.”
          Especially regarding the last point. It seems to say that there is no good evidence that tropical storms/hurricanes are becoming more frequent or stronger, yet those events are relentlessly cited as evidence of climate change and its ill effects. Does it not say what it seems to say?

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          • Originally posted by Jacob View Post
            Can I get you honest take on the quotes from the IPCC?

            Were these actual quotes?

            Especially regarding the last point. It seems to say that there is no good evidence that tropical storms/hurricanes are becoming more frequent or stronger, yet those events are relentlessly cited as evidence of climate change and its ill effects. Does it not say what it seems to say?
            I can say that I'm annoyed when any single event is attributed to global warming. There's just no way of knowing that. It makes sense that a given hurricane might be a little bit stronger, since warmer water provides more fuel, but even then it seems a bit pointless to speak in specifics like that when there's little or no evidentiary basis for doing so.

            Good science is misinterpreted and sensationalized as a rule, and this phenomenon is exaggerated in the case of climate change or any other hot-button issue. So naturally there is going to be a lot of dumb stuff written about it.

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            • Originally posted by woot View Post
              I can say that I'm annoyed when any single event is attributed to global warming. There's just no way of knowing that. It makes sense that a given hurricane might be a little bit stronger, since warmer water provides more fuel, but even then it seems a bit pointless to speak in specifics like that when there's little or no evidentiary basis for doing so.

              Good science is misinterpreted and sensationalized as a rule, and this phenomenon is exaggerated in the case of climate change or any other hot-button issue. So naturally there is going to be a lot of dumb stuff written about it.
              Climate change is killing off the North America moose...
              North American Moose Die Off, Climate Change 'Plays A Huge Part'

              North America’s moose are dropping like flies, their populations declining at an alarming rate. No one is quite sure why the animal is dying off, but scientists say the culprit is likely climate change.
              [...]

              http://www.ibtimes.com/north-american-moose-die-climate-change-plays-huge-part-1426854


              Are all you climate change naysayers happy now?
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              • http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...121707563.html

                “We have a carbon bubble,” Gore tells me in the accompanying video. “Bubbles by definition involve a lot of asset owners and investors who don’t see what in retrospect becomes blindingly obvious. And this carbon bubble is going to burst.”

                Specifically, Gore cites the estimated $7 trillion in carbon assets on the books of multinational energy companies. “The valuation of those companies and their assets is now based on the assumption that all of those carbon assets will be sold and burned,” he says. “They are not going to be burned. They cannot be burned and will not be burned. No more than one-third can ever possibly be burned without destroying the future.”
                The worst thing the Global Warming movement ever did was allow this clown to be their spokesman. He's such a charlatan he damages any legitimate effort to educate about real climate science. Unfortunately for those honestly seeking scientific answers, it's guilt by association in the political arena.

                Then there's this gem:

                Think what you want about Gore (or global warming) but he’s been incredibly successful in business since leaving public office: Gore’s net worth tops $200 million, according to Bloomberg, nearly as much as 2012 GOP Presidential candidate Mitt Romney.
                Incredibly successful in business? I guess so. He certainly has put a lot of cash in his bank accounts.

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                • Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                  http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...121707563.html



                  The worst thing the Global Warming movement ever did was allow this clown to be their spokesman. He's such a charlatan he damages any legitimate effort to educate about real climate science. Unfortunately for those honestly seeking scientific answers, it's guilt by association in the political arena.

                  Then there's this gem:



                  Incredibly successful in business? I guess so. He certainly has put a lot of cash in his bank accounts.
                  Indeed. I really wish he'd disappear, and frankly thought he had.

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                  • Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                    The worst thing the Global Warming movement ever did was allow this clown to be their spokesman. He's such a charlatan he damages any legitimate effort to educate about real climate science. Unfortunately for those honestly seeking scientific answers, it's guilt by association in the political arena.
                    There's an organized movement? And they have an official spokesperson?

                    (I agree he is an idiot)
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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                    • LOL. The Dude is going to love this headline...

                      Global warming scientists forced to admit defeat... because of too much ice: Stranded Antarctic ship's crew will be rescued by helicopter

                      They went in search evidence of the world’s melting ice caps, but instead a team of climate scientists have been forced to abandon their mission … because the Antarctic ice is thicker than usual at this time of year.


                      The scientists have been stuck aboard the stricken MV Akademik Schokalskiy since Christmas Day, with repeated sea rescue attempts being abandoned as icebreaking ships failed to reach them.


                      Now that effort has been ditched, with experts admitting the ice is just too thick. Instead the crew have built an icy helipad, with plans afoot to rescue the 74-strong team by helicopter.
                      [...]

                      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2pFpGCeZU
                      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • How to piss off Tim Cook...

                        […]
                        The first question challenged an assertion from Mr. Cook that Apple's sustainability programs and goals—Apple plans on having 100 percent of its power come from green sources—are good for the bottom line. The representative asked Mr. Cook if that was the case only because of government subsidies on green energy.


                        Mr. Cook didn't directly answer that question, but instead focused on the second question: the NCPPR representative asked Mr. Cook to commit right then and there to doing only those things that were profitable.


                        What ensued was the only time I can recall seeing Tim Cook angry, and he categorically rejected the worldview behind the NCPPR's advocacy. He said that there are many things Apple does because they are right and just, and that a return on investment (ROI) was not the primary consideration on such issues.


                        "When we work on making our devices accessible by the blind," he said, "I don't consider the bloody ROI." He said that the same thing about environmental issues, worker safety, and other areas where Apple is a leader.


                        As evidenced by the use of "bloody" in his response—the closest thing to public profanity I've ever seen from Mr. Cook–it was clear that he was quite angry. His body language changed, his face contracted, and he spoke in rapid fire sentences compared to the usual metered and controlled way he speaks.


                        He didn't stop there, however, as he looked directly at the NCPPR representative and said, "If you want me to do things only for ROI reasons, you should get out of this stock."
                        […]
                        http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/artic...-sell-apples-s
                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...rles-c-w-cooke

                          Secure as he appears to be in his convictions, Mann has nonetheless taken it upon himself to try to suppress debate and to silence some of the “irrational” and “virulent” critics, who he claims have nothing of substance to say. To this end, Mann has filed a lawsuit against National Review. Our offense? Daring to publish commentary critical of his hockey-stick graph and disapproving of his hectoring mien.

                          Ostensibly, Mann’s litigation against National Review is the product of a blog post written by Mark Steyn back in 2012, in which Steyn provided commentary on a separate article (written by Rand Simberg and published on the Competitive Enterprise Institute’s blog) that had drawn a crude analogy between Mann and Jerry Sandusky, the convicted child molester and former assistant football coach at Mann’s employer, Penn State. Steyn quoted a passage in which Simberg had stated, “Mann could be said to be the Jerry Sandusky of climate science, except that instead of molesting children, he has molested and tortured data in the service of politicized science that could have dire economic consequences for the nation and planet.” Distancing himself from the Sandusky analogy, Steyn averred that he was “not sure I’d have extended that metaphor all the way into the locker-room showers with quite the zeal Mr. Simberg does.” “But,” Steyn continued, “he has a point.” After all, “Michael Mann was the man behind the fraudulent climate-change ‘hockey-stick’ graph, the very ringmaster of the tree-ring circus.” (This “tree-ring” remark refers to Mann’s reliance on controversial “proxy” data to gauge historical temperatures — about which more below.)

                          Shortly after the publication of Steyn’s post, Mann’s lawyer sent National Review a letter, demanding a public apology and a retraction. National Review responded to the missive with the reminder that the blog post was “fully protected under the First Amendment” and, later, National Review’s editor, Richard Lowry, invited Mann to “get lost” and to “go away and bother someone else.” In Lowry’s view, Mann’s threat to submit Steyn’s commentary to judicial resolution under the libel laws was nothing short of preposterous. Steyn’s disagreement, Lowry argued, was with the validity of Mann’s scientific work — his words serving as a contribution to the question of whether Mann’s statistical methods and his reliance on “proxy” data give a valid picture of historical temperature trends, or instead his work is flawed, false, and misleading. As Lowry put it, “In common polemical usage, ‘fraudulent’ doesn’t mean honest-to-goodness criminal fraud. It means intellectually bogus and wrong.” In a free and open society, the correct way to respond to the accusation that one’s work is “intellectually bogus and wrong” is to attempt a rebuttal, not to file a lawsuit. National Review stands on the side of free and open society.
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                          • so what do people make of the Mt. Everest situation, then?
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                            • I read this the other day, and I'd like to hear JL or some other scientist respond. Is this true, or is there a hole in the author's logic. If there is a logical fail, what is it?

                              Air typically contains 500 times more water vapor than CO2. Depending upon local humidity, water vapor can form about two percent of the atmosphere, serving as the Earth’s dominant greenhouse gas. Most scientists estimate that water vapor causes between 75 percent and 90 percent of Earth’s greenhouse effect. If we use the conservative number, about 75 percent of the greenhouse effect is due to water vapor and clouds, and of the remaining portion, about 19 percent is due to carbon dioxide, with 6 percent due to methane and other gases. But as indicated by the Carbon Cycle Model of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), only about 3 percent of the CO2 placed into the atmosphere each year is from human emissions. So, of the last 25 percent of the greenhouse effect that is due to carbon dioxide and methane, only about 3 percent of this is due to man-made sources.

                              This means that man-made emissions are responsible for only about one percent of the greenhouse effect.
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                              • Originally posted by cowboy View Post
                                I read this the other day, and I'd like to hear JL or some other scientist respond. Is this true, or is there a hole in the author's logic. If there is a logical fail, what is it?
                                I actually think this is an interesting question, particularly with the pursuit of hydrogen as an alternative fuel source. Output of a hydrogen engine = water.
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