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Yes, RS, explain what "getting over it" means. How would the country be acting right now if we were "over it."What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
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Being from Oklahoma City and having heard a lot of this rhetoric before, I imagine he's talking about the annual media re-enactment and the pre-Nascar moments of silence and so on. It does get to the point where, outside of a very small community, the annual tributes start to seem sort of pro forma and even commercial.
But it's a very hard argument to make tactfully. It's sort of akin to telling people to "get over" Pearl Harbor or Kennedy's death.
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Viking, ignore aos ***** ******. Eles não sabem o que é perder algo precioso em uma escala cívica. Há grandes perdas e coisas para lamentar mais que os entes queridos. Você pode perder um lugar e isso pode comer a sua alma; o luto é um trabalho.Last edited by wuapinmon; 09-12-2010, 06:08 PM."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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I wonder how much of this is generational? To me, stuff like WWII and Pearl Harbor are history. Same with The Kennedy and MLK assasinations. But to those a generation (or two) older, they are not. Probably the same thing with 9/11. If you were an adult and lived through it in real time (even via TV) it still has an emotional impact. If not, then I can understand the "get over it" mentality.
So for those who are of the "get over it" camp, how old were you on 9/11/01?"It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."
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I was 21. I remember being in shock,and it was a very emotional few weeks. But when you look what our emotional addiction to 9/11 has done, I think it justifies being regarded in a similar fashion to Pearl Harbor. We remember it on the anniversary and move on. Those who were personally affected, I have no problem with a memorial in perpetuity.Originally posted by FMCoug View PostI wonder how much of this is generational? To me, stuff like WWII and Pearl Harbor are history. Same with The Kennedy and MLK assasinations. But to those a generation (or two) older, they are not. Probably the same thing with 9/11. If you were an adult and lived through it in real time (even via TV) it still has an emotional impact. If not, then I can understand the "get over it" mentality.
So for those who are of the "get over it" camp, how old were you on 9/11/01?Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.
"Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson
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"They do not know what it is to lose something precious in a civic scale. There are great things to grieve losses and more than loved ones. You may lose a place and this can eat your soul, the grief is work."
It's not that I don't know what it's like to have a loss. It's that I think 9/11 and our subsequent response has played right into the terrorists hands. Why? Because we're so emotionally addicted to it. Anyway, this is another one of those "Everyone versus RedSox threads" and I honestly don't want to diminish anyone's personal loss, so I should probably bow out. If you want to discuss, however, PM me.Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.
"Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson
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Hey, a Space Ghost sighting.Originally posted by Space Ghostmaybe by then it will be safe to be a Muslim cabbie in NY again.
cheers.
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That might just be the saddest thing I've ever heard. From that high up, if he were still alive, it would've taken about 10 seconds to fall to certain death.Originally posted by scottie View PostI was Youtubing some WTC attack videos to show my kids. I found this one (watch it to the very end, it really broke my heart):
[YOUTUBE]RLW0jKKRXMo[/YOUTUBE]
Everything about 9/11 was heartbreaking of course, but I had never heard about this call before. If you watch it in full screen mode the text of the call is easier to read (full link)."Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon
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I am choosing to believe it happened so fast he never felt anything.Originally posted by wuapinmon View PostThat might just be the saddest thing I've ever heard. From that high up, if he were still alive, it would've taken about 10 seconds to fall to certain death.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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