Democratic Socialists of America

[Jeff Lebowski]

This is a big enough movement that we need a dedicated thread.

Everyone thought DSA candidate Hong was going to easily win the primary for Wisconsin governor. Not so fast...

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Big win for moderates.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Interesting take:

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Seeing lots of parallels with the MAGA takeover of the Republican party.

[BlueK]

Interesting take:

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Seeing lots of parallels with the MAGA takeover of the Republican party.

He totally thought Hong would win and is trying to explain away that he was wrong.

[Jeff Lebowski]

He totally thought Hong would win and is trying to explain away that he was wrong.

Everybody thought Hong would win! Betting markets, pollsters, etc. Really interesting outcome.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Seeing lots of parallels with the MAGA takeover of the Republican party.

Now they have election denial. Lol.

I am going to dub these folks "Blue MAGA".

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[Northwestcoug]

Everybody thought Hong would win! Betting markets, pollsters, etc. Really interesting outcome.

Yeah how did Kalshi who had Hong at 95% odds get it so wrong?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Yeah how did Kalshi who had Hong at 95% odds get it so wrong?

Probably just reading the poll results.

Or the election was stolen!

[Moliere]

Blue MAGA is good. Or MAGA Left. Either way, the populism is about on the same level.

[originalsocal]

Probably just reading the poll results.

Or the election was stolen!

Establishment Democrats are at it again.

[Maximus]

maga more extreme than DSA, true or false

[Moliere]

maga more extreme than DSA, true or false

No idea, but they are both extreme and would both be awful for the USA. I mean, DSA wants to increase social ownership of economic sectors and corporations. They also have a platform of universal rent control. This is on top of wanting to redraft the constitution and dissolving the senate. That’s pretty radical and extreme.

[BlueK]

No idea, but they are both extreme and would both be awful for the USA. I mean, DSA wants to increase social ownership of economic sectors and corporations. They also have a platform of universal rent control. This is on top of wanting to redraft the constitution and dissolving the senate. That’s pretty radical and extreme.

I think you can make an argument that redrafting the Constitution can be done legally and would require a lot of work but also some compromise and consensus, where the maga way has proven to be to just flat out ignore it. It's like we already don't have a Senate because Trump just does everything by decree anyway.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Core DSA positions:

Eliminating the senate
Abolishing/defunding police
Abolishing/defunding prisons
100% open borders
Universal rent control
Defund the military
Replace the President and Supreme Court with an executive and judiciary chosen by and subordinate to Congress
End all military and economic aid to Israel
Prosecute U.S. and Israeli leaders over Gaza
Wealth tax
Etc.

On balance, worse than MAGA.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Establishment Democrats are at it again.

Yes! Those rascals.

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Like I said, Blue MAGA.

[BlueK]

Core DSA positions:

Eliminating the senate
Abolishing/defunding police
Abolishing/defunding prisons
100% open borders
Universal rent control
Defund the military
Replace the President and Supreme Court with an executive and judiciary chosen by and subordinate to Congress

Prosecute U.S. and Israeli leaders over Gaza
Wealth tax
Etc.

On balance, worse than MAGA.

There is an extreme maga version of some of these that is also stupid or horrific.

End all military and economic aid to Israel
Maga: End all military and economic aid to everyone except Israel.

Defund the military
Maga: put them on American streets in cities from blue states to intimidate and then shoot some citizens for protesting.

100% open borders
Maga: workbtoward zero immigration. In fact, find ways to kick out as many foreigners as possible if they can, including those here who were here legally.

As for changes to the structure of the federal government, Trump is already doing that de-facto by his executive orders and refusal to obey court orders. Trump views Congress the same way Putin does Russia's legislative body.

Don't make me choose between the two.