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  • myboynoah
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    Originally posted by YOhio View Post

    He’d be great but both parties are too infested with antisemites for him to go much further.
    Agree. He's too closely tied to Israel.

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  • myboynoah
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    Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    When I get into political discussions with my commie daughter sometimes the beguiling language of socialism allures me. But her most salient points center around the fact that the vast majority of Americans, certainly in the bottom 90 but probably closer to the bottom 95th percentile, are closer economically to a union worker (not just income but savings, retirement plans, tenuous life situations that could impact employment, etc.) than they are to the top 10th percentile. All of us, even those who make welder level money, are a couple of bad decisions or health outcomes away from fiscal insolvency. And that makes us much closer to lower income earners than the oligarchs who control so much of nation's wealth. We can argue whether or not that's a moral failure, but the reality is that the divide is continually getting worse. And both political parties haven't done much to address it.

    The people who are currently enthusiastic about someone like Mamdani see the world probably clearer than my generation, who were raised on a problematic ideal of America that provided opportunity for all. They see real problems that affect their daily lives, that weren't even an issue with the generation before. I just saw that the median age for first time house owners is an incredible 40, a rise of 5 years in just a couple of years. So even if Mamdani doesn't produce all his promises (spoiler alert: he won't), he gets major points from younger people just for bringing to light some significant struggles a lot of people deal with.

    That's why there is Mamdani buzz in younger voters, even though for a lot of America the more centrist wins in Virginia and New Jersey are more meaningful.
    Mamdani may be good for New York, and his ideas may have some level of utility. But his is not an approach that can translate widely across the U.S. But he likes poking Trump with a stick, so that is fun.

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  • frank ryan
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    Originally posted by YOhio View Post

    He’d be great but both parties are too infested with antisemites for him to go much further.
    It's unfortunate how accurate this is.

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  • YOhio
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    Originally posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post

    Hell no, he should not be the face of the party. Josh Shapiro, seriously, make him the face of the party.
    He’d be great but both parties are too infested with antisemites for him to go much further.

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  • Northwestcoug
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    When I get into political discussions with my commie daughter sometimes the beguiling language of socialism allures me. But her most salient points center around the fact that the vast majority of Americans, certainly in the bottom 90 but probably closer to the bottom 95th percentile, are closer economically to a union worker (not just income but savings, retirement plans, tenuous life situations that could impact employment, etc.) than they are to the top 10th percentile. All of us, even those who make welder level money, are a couple of bad decisions or health outcomes away from fiscal insolvency. And that makes us much closer to lower income earners than the oligarchs who control so much of nation's wealth. We can argue whether or not that's a moral failure, but the reality is that the divide is continually getting worse. And both political parties haven't done much to address it.

    The people who are currently enthusiastic about someone like Mamdani see the world probably clearer than my generation, who were raised on a problematic ideal of America that provided opportunity for all. They see real problems that affect their daily lives, that weren't even an issue with the generation before. I just saw that the median age for first time house owners is an incredible 40, a rise of 5 years in just a couple of years. So even if Mamdani doesn't produce all his promises (spoiler alert: he won't), he gets major points from younger people just for bringing to light some significant struggles a lot of people deal with.

    That's why there is Mamdani buzz in younger voters, even though for a lot of America the more centrist wins in Virginia and New Jersey are more meaningful.

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  • The_Tick
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    Originally posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post

    Hell no, he should not be the face of the party. Josh Shapiro, seriously, make him the face of the party.
    I think Harris wins the Presidency had she chosen Shapiro. He's a sharp dude.

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  • MartyFunkhouser
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    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Our Mamdani discussions are spread among various threads at the moment. This is a big enough story (and sufficiently interesting) that it deserves a dedicated thread.

    Ben Shapiro weighs in.

    tl;dr --> democrats should not be tempted to make him the face of the party

    Hell no, he should not be the face of the party. Josh Shapiro, seriously, make him the face of the party.

    Leave a comment:


  • Zohran Mamdani - Democratic Socialist Mayor of NYC

    Our Mamdani discussions are spread among various threads at the moment. This is a big enough story (and sufficiently interesting) that it deserves a dedicated thread.

    Ben Shapiro weighs in.

    tl;dr --> democrats should not be tempted to make him the face of the party

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