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  • chrisrenrut
    Strikes and Gutters
    • Jul 2009
    • 2319

    #181
    Originally posted by The_Tick View Post

    You are correct. I haven't dug into anything. It isn't my thing.

    What I am trying to share, is that how you view the Right is how they view the Left. Neither side is correct or superior of the other. Both are corrupt to the core.

    I am just curious if you can see that.
    Honestly, most posters here are pretty centrist to center-right. I think most have real problems with the hardcore left and MAGA right.

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    • Northwestcoug
      Cocked and Loaded
      • May 2011
      • 18104

      #182
      Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post

      Honestly, most posters here are pretty centrist to center-right. I think most have real problems with the hardcore left and MAGA right.
      I'm left of center in the streets (here) and harder left in the sheets (philosophically). Tick and others may notice when that socialist-curious part of me rears its head around these parts.
      "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
      "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
      - SeattleUte

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      • frank ryan
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 12453

        #183
        Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post

        Honestly, most posters here are pretty centrist to center-right. I think most have real problems with the hardcore left and MAGA right.
        I think I get labeled as a hardcore leftist, I find that short sided. My voting record doesn't back that up. I'm definitely liberal but my policy positions are pretty varied.

        My primary reasons for fearing Trump and MAGA are national security, foreign policy ones, old school conservative ones. And despite the constant hounding and cries of "chicken little," my prognostication batting average with subject matter is above average.

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        • frank ryan
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 12453

          #184
          Originally posted by The_Tick View Post

          You are correct. I haven't dug into anything. It isn't my thing.

          What I am trying to share, is that how you view the Right is how they view the Left. Neither side is correct or superior of the other. Both are corrupt to the core.

          I am just curious if you can see that.
          It's not so much left vs right. It's MAGA is uniquely awful.

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          • frank ryan
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 12453

            #185
            Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

            I'm left of center in the streets (here) and harder left in the sheets (philosophically). Tick and others may notice when that socialist-curious part of me rears its head around these parts.
            There aren't any hardcore leftists on here, not by any non-Provo or Bible-belt standards

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            • falafel
              loves to talk on things
              • Mar 2009
              • 38039

              #186
              Originally posted by The_Tick View Post

              You are correct. I haven't dug into anything. It isn't my thing.

              What I am trying to share, is that how you view the Right is how they view the Left. Neither side is correct or superior of the other. Both are corrupt to the core.

              I am just curious if you can see that.
              Of course, both sides are corrupt.

              The problem exists when equating Epstein and his heinous crimes to Soros, who hasn't been accused (as far as I know) of anything remotely similar. Painting with such a broad brush ("both sides are corrupt, why look further") is not helpful or justified.

              There is no doubt both sides have very corrupt members. Look what is happening with CA Dem. Eric Swalwell, resigning his seat and abandoning his CA gov campaign over sexual assault claims. Horrible, and I am glad he is stepping down (right thing to do). Look at Sen. Bob Menendez of NJ who was sentenced to 11 years. SO MUCH CORRUPTION with that guy.

              The claim that "neither side is superior of [sic] the other" is not accurate, at least not during this particular snap shot in time. You cannot compare any democrat or democratic donor to the current corruption of Trump and his administration. Trump's net worth has nearly DOUBLED since he began his second term in 2025, from 3.9B to 7.3B. Coincidence? Fuck no. He and his kids are doing it OPENLY. And no one, repeat NO ONE has been brought to justice for anything in the Epstein files. That is absolutely ridiculous and wrong.

              But George Soros gives lots of money to the democrats!

              If I am wrong or missing something, please let me know. AGAIN - I recognize there is grift and corruption in every political party and likely in virtually every local office. Saying that "both sides do it" is incredibly lazy and dishonest. The matter of degree matters. Democrats have had very embarrassing and difficult corruption scandals in the past, and it will happen again. But please stop the equivocating.
              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

              Dig your own grave, and save!

              "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

              "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • Jeff Lebowski
                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                • Nov 2008
                • 69834

                #187
                No hardcore leftists here. Lol.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • BlueK
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 7229

                  #188
                  Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  No hardcore leftists here. Lol.
                  Are you laughing because you think there are some here? If so, who would you put in that category?

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                  • frank ryan
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 12453

                    #189
                    Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                    Are you laughing because you think there are some here? If so, who would you put in that category?
                    Clearly he's alluding to me. But, that's a lazy assessment.

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                    • Northwestcoug
                      Cocked and Loaded
                      • May 2011
                      • 18104

                      #190
                      Originally posted by falafel View Post

                      Of course, both sides are corrupt.

                      The problem exists when equating Epstein and his heinous crimes to Soros, who hasn't been accused (as far as I know) of anything remotely similar. Painting with such a broad brush ("both sides are corrupt, why look further") is not helpful or justified.

                      There is no doubt both sides have very corrupt members. Look what is happening with CA Dem. Eric Swalwell, resigning his seat and abandoning his CA gov campaign over sexual assault claims. Horrible, and I am glad he is stepping down (right thing to do). Look at Sen. Bob Menendez of NJ who was sentenced to 11 years. SO MUCH CORRUPTION with that guy.
                      I am genuinely surprised that a guy who obviously had as much political ambition as Swalwell would resign so quickly. Good riddance, and to Gonzalez also who announced his resignation today.

                      "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                      "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                      - SeattleUte

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                      • frank ryan
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12453

                        #191
                        Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post

                        I am genuinely surprised that a guy who obviously had as much political ambition as Swalwell would resign so quickly. Good riddance, and to Gonzalez also who announced his resignation today.
                        He was also held accountable by his own. Thank god.

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                        • Moliere
                          One man.....one pie
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 27927

                          #192
                          Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                          He was also held accountable by his own. Thank god.
                          Correction, he was held accountable by his own once it became clear there weren’t any political consequences to holding him accountable.
                          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                          • frank ryan
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 12453

                            #193
                            Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                            Correction, he was held accountable by his own once it became clear there weren’t any political consequences to holding him accountable.
                            So like Madison Cawthorn or Matt Gates?

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                            • LiveCoug
                              LA Ute loves me
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 18489

                              #194
                              Originally posted by The_Tick View Post

                              You are correct. I haven't dug into anything. It isn't my thing.

                              What I am trying to share, is that how you view the Right is how they view the Left. Neither side is correct or superior of the other. Both are corrupt to the core.

                              I am just curious if you can see that.
                              I mean, you just have to visit reddit to see the outrage looping on the left. The extremes are the absolute worst. But right now, the extreme right is the one in power and that is currently the worst

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                              • falafel
                                loves to talk on things
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 38039

                                #195
                                Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                                Correction, he was held accountable by his own once it became clear there weren’t any political consequences to holding him accountable.
                                The one for one ultimately made it palatable for both parties. Could be another round of D and R resignations for those two Florida members of congress.
                                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                                Dig your own grave, and save!

                                "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                                "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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