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Unions can be beneficial. But we are now witnessing the very worst of organized labor. The longshoremen just rejected a 50% raise. They want 75% and they want a guarantee that US ports will not modernize and implement automation that would reduce costs, increase safety and efficiency, boost the US economy, and lower prices for consumers. China already has automated ports. And here we have the head of the union bragging about how they can destroy the economy and make life miserable for everyone. Oh yeah, this all comes when the south is trying to clean up from a devastating hurricane.
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The last thing we need right now is for a union to screw up the economy one month before an election. Couldn’t they have waited until Harris won before striking?"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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I am usually pro union, but this is one that I am okay seeing people become scabs. How is 50% not good enough when most of us aren't seeing 3%?Comment
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If it's backbreaking work, the unionmembers should be paid well for it. But if automation technology exists that will reduce the wear on the body, why isn't the union for it?
If it's dangerous work, (and it is), the unionmembers should be paid well for it. But it automation would reduce the danger to the workers, why isn't the union for it?
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Because they think they'd lose jobs?Originally posted by LVAllen View PostAin't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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Backbreaking work? You think they unload the ships with their hands?Originally posted by LVAllen View Post
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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The Longshoreman aren't loyal establishment soldiers when it comes to the Democratic Party. They are a more progressive union but the follow their own beat: I'm not sure the strike is wise and it is less than ideal for Harris, but that might be part of the rationale knowing it is very inconvenient but also know that the Biden/Harris admin doesn't want to alienate their base/Originally posted by Moliere View PostComment
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It is 50% over 5 years. But still a lot more than most Americans will see. And they are already at the high end of the salary spectrum.Originally posted by The_Tick View PostComment
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No. But the most common work injury to longshoreman comes from lifting excessive loads. Fortunately, that's not the kind of injury that leads to amputations or death, like most of the other causes of injury in that line of work.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
Backbreaking work? You think they unload the ships with their hands?Comment
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Striking to stop automation is one of the stupidest things I can think of as a reason to strike. Of course they want to preserve their jobs, but they aren't going to stop automation from happening."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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But they can extract very expensive rents on the way down.Originally posted by Moliere View Postτὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσινComment
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If we had a president he would invoke the Taft-Hartley Act...
And demand the ports be automated...
So these overpaid blue collar workers can work (or watch) from home....
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Last week I saw a huge automated island port next to Shanghai with very few workers on the entire island. It's obviously vastly more efficient than anything here is the states. Can't remember if Chinese dockworkers struck against automation. Probably not.Originally posted by Moliere View PostComment
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