My brother's Facebook campaign to take Jackson off the $20

[Jeff Lebowski]

Sigh... I give up.

[Green Monstah]

Sigh... I give up.

Rightly or wrongly, I'm claiming victory!!!!

I get what you're saying...it's just that we're approaching the issue with irreconcilable philosophies.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

I think Ulysses S. Grant should be taken off of the $50. Also, I want another another batch of $2 bills to come out of the mint, I want to collect some.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Unless they don't have a concept of genocide (or at the very least, a far different definition than you or I have). They may have viewed Native Americans as sub-human .

This point is pure rubbish. 50% of the Congress viewed it for what it was, clearly it wasn't an isolated viewpoint. If we're going to rank someone as a great president then they probably should have gone with the 50% opinion that didn't want to cause a genocide.

[wuapinmon]

In many respects, he was a great President: a true friend of the common man, and not from a "let's get as many people on the dole as we can" "friend" the modern democratic party tries to pass itself off as.

Fascinating.....you view the democrats as trying to get people on the dole. I view them as trying to help people who can't make it without help.

Two sides of the same coin, really. Interesting. I remember sharing your views, not even 5 years ago. Maybe I'll swing back someday if I ever strike it rich.

[Green Monstah]

This point is pure rubbish. 50% of the Congress viewed it for what it was, clearly it wasn't an isolated viewpoint. If we're going to rank someone as a great president then they probably should have gone with the 50% opinion that didn't want to cause a genocide.

I hate to point out that Congress apparently approved the trail of tears by due process, which at the very least tips the scale in my favor. I didn't say it was an isolated viewpoint. Furthermore, I'm not sure the victorious half of Congress voted to kill the Cherokee, but to re-located them (with indifference as to whether they survived, but the distinction is probably an important one). It's only after the fact that we can (a) see the horrific consequences of Congress' actions and (b) label it with a 21st Century buzz word like "genocide."

[venkman]

Fascinating.....you view the democrats as trying to get people on the dole. I view them as trying to help people who can't make it without help.

Two sides of the same coin, really. Interesting. I remember sharing your views, not even 5 years ago. Maybe I'll swing back someday if I ever strike it rich.

Yeah, well they'll never admit it, not even to themselves, it's sort of a subconscious thing. They derive their power from more people being dependent on them.

Of course, I only feel this way because I'm loaded.

[BoylenOver]

This thread is productive, as I didn't know (or think) that much about Andrew Jackson.

That said, the process of finding a replacement for him would be worse than just keeping him there.

[wuapinmon]

This thread is productive, as I didn't know (or think) that much about Andrew Jackson.

That said, the process of finding a replacement for him would be worse than just keeping him there.

I nominate Will Rogers.

[oxcoug]

The bit about New Orleans is a cheap shot. That was a great military victory.

We had a financial crisis during the Second Bank of the U.S. so the fact that we had one after the charter ran out doesn't prove it the 2BoUS was a good thing. The 2BoUS was a private bank made up of primarily foreign (British) stockholders. Given we had just fought a war against the British and given Whig support for the Bank (a good chunk of Whig sentiment/action during the War of 1812 tells you which country many of them were loyal to - hint, it wasn't the U.S.), I think he had a right to be suspicious.

Trail of Tears is difficult to defend, even given the times, as Lebowski has pointed out. I'm sure his attitude towards indians was colored by his time fighting them in Tennessee, particularly the Fort Mims massacre, but it's still a black mark on his presidency.

In many respects, he was a great President: a true friend of the common man, and not from a "let's get as many people on the dole as we can" "friend" the modern democratic party tries to pass itself off as.

Well I mean sure - it was "great military victory" - but it was more or less like the Pro Bowl - the war was already decided. So, high five for the technically impressive victory but it's not like it saved America from being brought back under British rule or something.

[venkman]

Well I mean sure - it was "great military victory" - but it was more or less like the Pro Bowl - the war was already decided. So, high five for the technically impressive victory but it's not like it saved America from being brought back under British rule or something.

Well not really, but whatever.

[happyone]

I nominate Will Rogers.

Just an aside, but when my daughter's High School put on "The Will Rogers Follies" for their musical - none of the kids had any idea who he was, so maybe that isn't a good idea

FTR - I think is one of the best humorists of the 20th centuary

[DapperDan]

I'd approve of this change, but I think a higher priority is getting rid of the penny and paper one dollar bills and just using the dollar coin.

It would save the country lots of money.

Won't somebody think of the strippers?

[cougjunkie]

Looks like your brother is a hack:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...148&ref=search

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...961&ref=search

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...025&ref=search

[wuapinmon]

Just an aside, but when my daughter's High School put on "The Will Rogers Follies" for their musical - none of the kids had any idea who he was, so maybe that isn't a good idea

FTR - I think is one of the best humorists of the 20th centuary

I do too. He was also 9/32 Cherokee, so he would make a fitting replacement for the 7th Prez.