The Mass Shooting Thread

[beefytee]

Maybe the US should just get rid of all its nuclear weapons and that would stop the nuclear threat from Russia... Sounds like a great plan. "Oh look, Comrades... The Amerikans got rid of all their nuclear weapons. We should do the same!"

Great comparison there! We shouldn’t try to reduce the number of nuclear weapons in the world, if everyone has nukes the world would be a much safer place. Nuclear proliferation for the win!

I’m sure you’d be much less terrified of Putin and aggravating him if this were the case.

[Maximus]

Gang members will always have access to guns even if they are a convict (and most of them are). It is likely this guy wasn't to be able to get a gun under the current gun laws. ("Current gun regulations again for the win! So let's add more.") FYI, this guy looks like he is a member of the Dallas Tango Blast gang. So if the gangs still have guns what good is it going to do to take away guns from the hands of citizens? To give the gang members the idea that they are easier targets?

Maybe the US should just get rid of all its nuclear weapons and that would stop the nuclear threat from Russia... Sounds like a great plan. "Oh look, Comrades... The Amerikans got rid of all their nuclear weapons. We should do the same!"

Only solution to people shooting people is everyone having guns at all times

[Uncle Ted]

We just more guns in the hands of citizens in public!

Gang members will always have access to guns even if they are a convict (and most of them are). It is likely this guy wasn't to be able to get a gun under the current gun laws. ("Current gun regulations again for the win! So let's add more.") FYI, this guy looks like he is a member of the Dallas Tango Blast gang. So if the gangs still have guns what good is it going to do to take away guns from the hands of citizens? To give the gang members the idea that they are easier targets?

Maybe the US should just get rid of all its nuclear weapons and that would stop the nuclear threat from Russia... Sounds like a great plan. "Oh look, Comrades... The Amerikans got rid of all their nuclear weapons. We should do the same!"

[Uncle Ted]

Very troubling when this happens in your community. Violent crimes are very rare and I have always felt safe. Will be interesting to see if the shooter was local.

Apparently a hispanic gang member from Dallas...

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[Moliere]

Allen, Texas. Shooting at an Outlet Mall. Dead includes the shooter and children. At least 9 transported to hospitals.

I was at that outlet mall in December. Bought MJ a Le Creuset ditch oven.

[Paperback Writer]

Allen, Texas. Shooting at an Outlet Mall. Dead includes the shooter and children. At least 9 transported to hospitals.

Very troubling when this happens in your community. Violent crimes are very rare and I have always felt safe. Will be interesting to see if the shooter was local.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I’m waiting for when those sensible and workable ideas of selectively keeping guns out of bad people’s hands and improved mental health services will stop mass shootings. Should be soon.

We just more guns in the hands of citizens in public!

[Northwestcoug]

I’m waiting for when those sensible and workable ideas of selectively keeping guns out of bad people’s hands and improved mental health services will stop mass shootings. Should be soon.

[LVAllen]

Allen, Texas. Shooting at an Outlet Mall. Dead includes the shooter and children. At least 9 transported to hospitals.

[frank ryan]

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Have you ever purchased a gun at a gun show? It’s much easier to purchase a gun from individual (like one of those fast and furious guns) or just build it yourself. Better regulation could force all individual sales to use a license firearms dealer to be involved but good luck trying to regulate folks building their own guns. Banning the sale of so called assault style guns would just increase the number of these “ghost guns” without serial numbers which implies the government has no idea when it was made and who made it. I guess the government could go door-to-door searching homes for assault style guns with or without serial numbers. That would go over well.

What do you propose?

[Uncle Ted]

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You a fan of the gun show loophole? Undocumented Immigrants can just go to one of those, no background check needed!

Have you ever purchased a gun at a gun show? It’s much easier to purchase a gun from individual (like one of those fast and furious guns) or just build it yourself. Better regulation could force all individual sales to use a license firearms dealer to be involved but good luck trying to regulate folks building their own guns. Banning the sale of so called assault style guns would just increase the number of these “ghost guns” without serial numbers which implies the government has no idea when it was made and who made it. I guess the government could go door-to-door searching homes for assault style guns with or without serial numbers. That would go over well.

[Pelado]

You a fan of the gun show loophole? Undocumented Immigrants can just go to one of those, no background check needed!

I don't think that is entirely accurate. If the seller at the gun show is a licensed dealer, the seller still has to perform a background check on the buyer.

[frank ryan]

Did he mentioned that the shooter was also an illegal undocumented immigrant that was deported five times as well?

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Of course, it doesn't matter because it was an AR-15 style weapon and this would have never happened if there was an assault weapons ban... Nevermind, that undocumented immigrants can't buy firearms in the US. I am guessing he actually used a "fast and furious" style weapon.

You a fan of the gun show loophole? Undocumented Immigrants can just go to one of those, no background check needed!

[old_gregg]

I assume it would be handled similarly to the Australian gun buyback program. Australia confiscated 650,000 guns. Murders and suicides plummeted. - Vox

the u.s. only has 650x that number, many of which are held by people actually crazy enough to die for their right to have them. so, should go well.

[beefytee]

No other stable democracy has had anything close to a 2nd amendment and a guaranteed right to a firearm.

I guess it comes down to what you want your gun control to look like. If you want restrictions on semi automatic rifles, does that include stopping the sale of and confiscation of them in private hands who bought them legally? That means the police, the FBI, the ATF, etc. will need to go door to door and forcibly take these from citizens. You don't see that as a potentially violent situation? Not only from gun nuts but from law enforcement who are known for their level headedness in tense situations? Semi automatic rifles are one of the most common guns in America. This isn't just randos in the sticks.

I assume it would be handled similarly to the Australian gun buyback program. Australia confiscated 650,000 guns. Murders and suicides plummeted. - Vox

Of course there is plenty that can go terribly wrong with the program. Canada royally screwed up their gun registry program they tried to implement. Canada Tried Registering Long Guns -- And Gave Up (forbes.com)