Obama Is No Liberal!

[BlueHair]

He's a hard-core leftist, who's just pragmatic enough to realize that some of the positions he's supported in the past (Gitmo) are just plain stupid...

Please clarify your position. On the economic left/right scale, I think Ron Paul is hard core right. Kim Jong Il and Hu Jintoa are hard core left. Where would you put Obama on that scale? I would put him slightly to the right of center.

I guess if we are only talking about american politics, Obama would be hard core left, given how far right the US is on a global scale.

[frank ryan]

Obama is in no man's land. He isn't right, and he isn't left enough for the libs.

He isn't liberal enough for me

[Moliere]

There's no doubt I'm immature, but this group scares me like no other.

I think causing fear is part of their platform, but probably not for the same reasons that you are scared.

[Hallelujah]

Obama is in no man's land. He isn't right, and he isn't left enough for the libs.

The dilemma he had was that he had to run left of Hillary to get the Dem primary election. Then he had to run as a centrist (and lie to high heaven) to get elected in the general election. As he is finding out, man cannot serve two masters.

Yes, he lied about Iraq, Afghanistan, economy............lied because he knew better. But now he has to lie again saying it was worse than he thought ..... in every aspect of life. It was not worse than he thought. He had brilliant people surrounding him that knew the truth but he couldn't address what he would do because it wouldn't have gotten him elected.

Those that voted for him got what they deserved. Unfortunately, the rest of us have to suffer with his minions.

[UtahDan]

Obama, like Clinton, is a practical centrist. I think he ideology is pretty far left, but he is intelligent enough to see that that is an untenable place to govern from. He will behave even more like a centrist after his party takes a gut punch this fall.

[BlueHair]

The dilemma he had was that he had to run left of Hillary to get the Dem primary election. Then he had to run as a centrist (and lie to high heaven) to get elected in the general election. As he is finding out, man cannot serve two masters.

Yes, he lied about Iraq, Afghanistan, economy............lied because he knew better. But now he has to lie again saying it was worse than he thought ..... in every aspect of life. It was not worse than he thought. He had brilliant people surrounding him that knew the truth but he couldn't address what he would do because it wouldn't have gotten him elected.

Those that voted for him got what they deserved. Unfortunately, the rest of us have to suffer with his minions.

There's one improvement from the previous administration.

[wuapinmon]

There's one improvement from the previous administration.

Don't kid yourself. Bush's advisors were not idiots; they were ideologues.

[RobinFinderson]

I think a lot of Obama's 'liberalness' has to do with the government responding to crises.

[il Padrino Ute]

Don't kid yourself. Bush's advisors were not idiots; they were ideologues.

As are Obama's. Obama himself is an ideologue which makes him a horrendous POTUS.

[wuapinmon]

As are Obama's. Obama himself is an ideologue which makes him a horrendous POTUS.

Like Reagan, Nixon, and Johnson?

[il Padrino Ute]

Like Reagan, Nixon, and Johnson?

Was Reagan an ideologue? I'm in his camp, so I wouldn't be able to recognize it.

Carter, yes. Nixon, yes. Johnson, yes. GW, yes. Obama, abso-f***ing-lutely.

[old_gregg]

Was Reagan an ideologue?

[il Padrino Ute]

That was a fair and deserved response. But unlike Obama supporters, I can admit that I'm biased.

[Indy Coug]

It's all a matter of perspective. On Cougarguard, I was a raging conservative. On Cougarboard, I'm a centrist.

If left to his own devices in a government bereft of compromises brought about by a system of checks and balances, Obama would undoubtedly be as liberal as they come.

[frank ryan]

That was a fair and deserved response. But unlike Obama supporters, I can admit that I'm biased.

Wth? That is an unfair and loaded generalization.