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Yes and no. It took just a couple of weeks for it to go global. That right there is reason for some alarm.The virulence was overstated, to be sure. But to extent, even that was just luck.Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
Clearly the organization is not without flaws, but they are between a rock and hard place in these situations.
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Bingo.Originally posted by TheAzzuri View PostYes and no. It took just a couple of weeks for it to go global. That right there is reason for some alarm.The virulence was overstated, to be sure. But to extent, even that was just luck.
Clearly the organization is not without flaws, but they are between a rock and hard place in these situations.
There was reason for alarm. H1N1 clearly WAS a virulent strain in that it spread quickly. It also had the shock-and-awe factor in that while it was generally a less serious strain in terms of overall death rate (ie it didn't kill a lot of old people - probably because 1) it simply wasn't that strong virus, and 2) it was closely related to two previous swine flu strains that older individuals would likely have been exposed to in the 50s and the 70s, and they had some resistance to it), it did seem to randomly kill young people who would usually not be too adversely affected by a normal flu strain. Those two things scared the snot out of a whole lot of people. It was a flu strain that had to be taken seriously. If it had mutated and gotten just a bit more deadly, the consequences could have been dire.
The big problem with all this is that the WHO now looks like they dont know what they're talking about. People will be slower to react to their next warning. And if a new 1918-type flu were to emerge, that could be catestrophic...
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The problem is it seems like every other year there is some disease that is going to kill us all. SARS, Bird Flu, Asian Flu, Swine Flu, etc... They never pan out.Originally posted by statman View PostBingo.
There was reason for alarm. H1N1 clearly WAS a virulent strain in that it spread quickly. It also had the shock-and-awe factor in that while it was generally a less serious strain in terms of overall death rate (ie it didn't kill a lot of old people - probably because 1) it simply wasn't that strong virus, and 2) it was closely related to two previous swine flu strains that older individuals would likely have been exposed to in the 50s and the 70s, and they had some resistance to it), it did seem to randomly kill young people who would usually not be too adversely affected by a normal flu strain. Those two things scared the snot out of a whole lot of people. It was a flu strain that had to be taken seriously. If it had mutated and gotten just a bit more deadly, the consequences could have been dire.
The big problem with all this is that the WHO now looks like they dont know what they're talking about. People will be slower to react to their next warning. And if a new 1918-type flu were to emerge, that could be catestrophic...Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks
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The WHO/CDC did exactly what they were supposed to do.
The media did not.
The definition change was made (and I would argue--appropriately) a long time ago. If this was such glaring evidence of conflict interest and false hype production, why didn't the media point this out? Because they enjoyed (and profited from) the hype. Conflict of interest, indeed.Last edited by ERCougar; 06-12-2010, 07:43 AM.At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
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And yet the media is still looking to profit from it by trying to hype the "wolf". It was real, it infrequently was serious, and people to this day have loved ones that died prematurely because of it.Originally posted by ERCougar View PostThe WHO/CDC did exactly what they were supposed to do.
The media did not.
The definition change was made (and I would argue--appropriately) a long time ago. If this was such glaring evidence of conflict interest and false hype production, why didn't the media point this out? Because they enjoyed (and profited from) the hype. Conflict of interest, indeed."Don't expect I'll see you 'till after the race"
"So where does the power come from to see the race to its end...from within"
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SARS killed a very very high percentage of the people who contracted it (~40-50% IIRC). It spread like wild-fire in small clusters of people. It was a gigantic public health threat. I don't think it actually killed anyone in the US because we treated it very aggressively (basically, if someone had it, put them in a drug induced coma, put in a chest tube and put them on a respirator to keep them alive until the virus runs its course). But if it had spread to a large enough number of people - ie if people outnumber available respirators - we would have had death rates like everyone else...Originally posted by BlueHair View PostThe problem is it seems like every other year there is some disease that is going to kill us all. SARS, Bird Flu, Asian Flu, Swine Flu, etc... They never pan out.
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