Troubled teens 'sent to Siberia'

[Shaka]

Provo has at least two schools, if not three, that deal with troubled kids. There´s one on 500 W by center street, and one or two up at the mouth of Provo Canyon. I delivered pizza there, and the places are like prisons.

It will always be the Ivy Tower to me.

[Sarah T. Jones]

Re : Troubled teens 'sent to Siberia'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10252405.stm?ls

sending these troubled teens to Siberia for the punishable weather is not a very good idea, plus they can send them to a wilderness program for troubled teens here in the U.S. instead.

[wuapinmon]

sending these troubled teens to Siberia for the punishable weather is not a very good idea, plus they can send them to a wilderness program for troubled teens here in the U.S. instead.[/U]

So, you're advocating punishment travel to the US as a means to right their ships and improve our trade deficit?

[UtahDan]

sending these troubled teens to Siberia for the punishable weather is not a very good idea, plus they can send them to a wilderness program for troubled teens here in the U.S. instead.[/U]

What do you mean here in the US? Are you in the US?

[New Mexican Disaster]

Provo has at least two schools, if not three, that deal with troubled kids. There´s one on 500 W by center street, and one or two up at the mouth of Provo Canyon. I delivered pizza there, and the places are like prisons.

i used to bless the sacrament for the kids in the provo canyon centers. We also would play them in basketball as they were treated as part of our stake. There was usually a meltdown from one or tow of the kids. I thought if they were troubled they might be better at hoops, but no dice.

[San Juan Sun]

Two kids I knew growing up went to those camps. Neither got off the drugs, but one ended up a counselor there later in life.

[Viking]

It will always be the Ivy Tower to me.

Ha! I have good memories of the Ivy Tower my freshman year

[Viking]

Two kids I knew growing up went to those camps. Neither got off the drugs, but one ended up a counselor there later in life.

THat's comforting I'm sure that there's a counselor there on drugs.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Don't send him on a boot camp, he will just feel rejected and that will push him away further. Taking your child into a psychologist or a psychiatrist might be a good idea and they could really help and make your troubled teen better.
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[Green Monstah]

Two kids I knew growing up went to those camps. Neither got off the drugs, but one ended up a counselor there later in life.

I know a few success stories. I knew a kid who went there as a teen, got clean, became a counselor, married another counselor, then relapsed in a horrific way. My heart goes out to him, though. He's a really good person with a very addictive personality.

[RC Vikings]

There are parts of Canada that are very similar to Siberia.

All of Saskatchewan and Manitoba would fit that description. For thirty years I've been trying to think of a reason to go back and visit but I haven't come up with one yet.

[NorthShoreCoug]

Have you ever traveled the north shore of Lake Superior? Breathtakingly beautiful, exceptionally raw and untouched. One of the most beautiful drives I have ever taken.

+1.

My three older kids and I have been backpacking on the north shore last fall and in the fall of 2009. A fantastic place!

[superjake]

Personally, I feel the best option for any parent who is struggling with a troubled teen is to consider the long-term result that is desired and then look for a long-term therapeutic private boarding school or residential treatment program that offers an outdoor component. I recommend long-term because it takes more then a couple of months for teens and people in general to make lasting, solid changes. Find a program that offers a wilderness component and a structured environment, which are both very therapeutic and will act as a catalyst in bringing about positive change for any and all troubled teens.

[San Juan Sun]

Personally, I feel the best option for any parent who is struggling with a troubled teen is to consider the long-term result that is desired and then look for a long-term therapeutic private boarding school or residential treatment program that offers an outdoor component. I recommend long-term because it takes more then a couple of months for teens and people in general to make lasting, solid changes. Find a program that offers a wilderness component and a structured environment, which are both very therapeutic and will act as a catalyst in bringing about positive change for any and all troubled teens.

Nothing like painting with a broad brush.

So which program are you recruiting for?

[Eddie]

There are some pretty good programs out there - I've seen some success stories as well. Some don't accept insurance and take straight cash only, and do seem to cater to the children of the rich and famous. That isn't to say that the children don't have issues or that the program won't help them.

There are also some programs out there that aren't quite as successful as others.



I always thought that the component most missing with many of these programs is the rehabilitation of the parents. Often the child has some behavioral issues (drug use, gang involvement, oppositional defiant, etc.); but that isn't to say that the parent doesn't contribute to the relationship problem between child and parent. If you want the relationship to change, isn't it necessary that both the child and parent make changes to how they relate to each other?

I guess one thing I'm assuming is that there are underlying familial issues (something the kid isn't getting at home) that lead or contribute to the drug use, gang involvement, etc.

It seems to me that what might occur with some of these programs is the child will learn to interact better with the program staff and resolve some issues. But upon returning home they easily fall back into the same patterns if the parents haven't been involved in making some changes to break the role that they play in the pattern/cycle of dysfunction.

But maybe I'm wrong...