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    The Oklahoma legislature recently overrode the governor's veto of legislation that requires any woman considering an abortion to have a transvaginal ultrasound during which a long list of the fetus's body parts must be pointed out to the patient.

    The law also states that doctors are no longer required to inform patients should they be suspicious of a birth defect or have any other information about the fetus that might increase the chances a patient would want to have an abortion. The law also provides for malpractice protection to doctors who withhold information about a fetus.

    Here was the governor's response when he vetoed it: “It is unconscionable to grant a physician legal protection to mislead or misinform pregnant women in an effort to impose his or her personal beliefs on a patient.”

    The Speaker of the Oklahoma House, who supports the new abortion legislation, had this to say about Obamacare:

    “We are entering into an era of government, an activist government, like we have never seen in our country,” Benge said. “We have a government that believes that it can be all things to all people; we have a government that has no boundaries or no conscious when it comes fiscal prudence; we have a government that believes it can create some utopian society or a perfect world without suffering or pain.”

    Here is a newspaper article from today with commentary from one clinic:

    The manager of an Oklahoma abortion clinic says complying with the requirements of the state's new ultrasound law is causing some patients to become emotional.

    Reproductive Services of Tulsa director Linda Meek said Wednesday the clinic is complying with a new law requiring women to undergo an ultrasound and listen to a detailed description of the fetus before getting an abortion.

    But Meek says the experience has been difficult for some patients. She says some have walked out of the room where ultrasound procedures are performed in tears because of what they had to hear. She says no patients have canceled an abortion.

    The clinic is challenging the constitutionality of the law. A hearing on a temporary restraining order is set Monday.
    Last edited by SoonerCoug; 04-28-2010, 09:56 AM.
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    Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
    The Oklahoma legislature recently overrode the governor's veto of legislation that requires any woman considering an abortion to have a transvaginal ultrasound during which a long list of the fetus's body parts must be pointed out to the patient.

    The law also states that doctors are no longer required to inform patients should they be suspicious of a birth defect or have any other information about the fetus that might increase the chances a patient would want to have an abortion. The law also provides for malpractice protection to doctors who withhold information about a fetus.

    Here was the governor's response when he vetoed it: “It is unconscionable to grant a physician legal protection to mislead or misinform pregnant women in an effort to impose his or her personal beliefs on a patient.”

    The Speaker of the Oklahoma House, who supports the new abortion legislation, had this to say about Obamacare:

    “We are entering into an era of government, an activist government, like we have never seen in our country,” Benge said. “We have a government that believes that it can be all things to all people; we have a government that has no boundaries or no conscious when it comes fiscal prudence; we have a government that believes it can create some utopian society or a perfect world without suffering or pain.”

    Here is a newspaper article from today with commentary from one clinic:

    The manager of an Oklahoma abortion clinic says complying with the requirements of the state's new ultrasound law is causing some patients to become emotional.

    Reproductive Services of Tulsa director Linda Meek said Wednesday the clinic is complying with a new law requiring women to undergo an ultrasound and listen to a detailed description of the fetus before getting an abortion.

    But Meek says the experience has been difficult for some patients. She says some have walked out of the room where ultrasound procedures are performed in tears because of what they had to hear. She says no patients have canceled an abortion.

    The clinic is challenging the constitutionality of the law. A hearing on a temporary restraining order is set Monday.

    That's horrible. Make the woman see and hear what she is destroying? How outrageous. Thank goodness they still went forward with the abortion. I find it ironic that the majority of those women had a chance to live yet deciding to end life of another being.

    Some parts of the law seem to follow the premise of 'informed consent'. What is wrong with that? The doctors certainly shouldn't withhold or mislead patients as to the medical condition of the fetus. That's a bit much.

    How do the abortion proponents view China's abortion situation where they abort females in much higher numbers than males?
    Last edited by Hallelujah; 04-29-2010, 09:24 AM.

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    • #3
      http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...-felony-223369

      Now they've gone and just outlawed it completely. Even in cases of rape or incest. Unless the mom's life is in jeopardy, abortion will be illegal in Oklahoma if this goes through. The whole damned country has gone mad.
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      • #4
        really puts a damper on my summer plans

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
          really puts a damper on my summer plans
          I know I shouldnt admit it, but that made me LOL.
          PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by creekster View Post
            I know I shouldnt admit it, but that made me LOL.
            Nice to see you open yourself up like this. Be careful though. You sound like a millennial.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by YOhio View Post
              Nice to see you open yourself up like this. Be careful though. You sound like a millennial.
              Good point. Too late to delete?
              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...-felony-223369

                Now they've gone and just outlawed it completely. Even in cases of rape or incest. Unless the mom's life is in jeopardy, abortion will be illegal in Oklahoma if this goes through. The whole damned country has gone mad.


                I'm pretty sure Oklahoma isn't the whole country and I'm pretty sure a state can't just outlaw abortion.
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                • #9
                  Vetoed.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                    Nice to see you open yourself up like this. Be careful though. You sound like a millennial.
                    He is such an open book, and reminds of Bill Clinton, so touchy-feely. Between his voting for Hillary and now spilling his guts all over the internet, who knows where he'll head next.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
                      Vetoed.
                      Sanity spoke up.
                      "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                      Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Topper View Post
                        Sanity spoke up.
                        Pretty much no chance it was not going to be vetoed. The legislature knew this - it was a statement bill, not an actual bill.
                        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by falafel View Post
                          Pretty much no chance it was not going to be vetoed. The legislature knew this - it was a statement bill, not an actual bill.
                          Stupid statement. These pro-life anti-abortionists also don't want to increase money for Medicaid and Welfare assistance for the children who would be born to the poor or the unwed. It's not pragmatic at all.
                          "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by falafel View Post
                            Pretty much no chance it was not going to be vetoed. The legislature knew this - it was a statement bill, not an actual bill.
                            It was enough of a waste of time and money to get it passed. Of course it was going to get vetoed, they didn't want to waste the time of money on the obvious lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the law that they had zero chance of winning.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Moliere View Post


                              I'm pretty sure Oklahoma isn't the whole country and I'm pretty sure a state can't just outlaw abortion.
                              I understand how a federal republic works. That we have legislatures that keep passing this garbage is my point. Also, pourquoi ĂȘtes-vous antagoniser le banane? Vous ne savez pas qu'il pousse sur les pentes d'un volcan?
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                              The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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