Clinton's claim that Tea Party members are akin to McVeigh...

[il Padrino Ute]

is more proof that the left doesn't get it. In his NY Times op-ed piece, he was doing fine until the last paragraph when he stated this:

Fifteen years ago, the line was crossed in Oklahoma City. In the current climate, with so many threats against the president, members of Congress and other public servants, we owe it to the victims of Oklahoma City, and those who survived and responded so bravely, not to cross it again.

Excuse me?

I remember when Clinton blamed conservative talk radio for the Oklahoma City bombing. He was wrong then and he's wrong now. The Tea Party folks are not a violent group.

If any side is going to resort to violence, it's going to be the left, as evidenced by the attacks on the scum Neo-Nazi group that was protesting in LA over the weekend.

When will the left get it? They are the violent ones, not the Tea Party folks. Clinton and his ilk are apparently too arrogant to recognize who the real problems are in this county.

[Indy Coug]

Did he say the Tea Party is the source of the aforementioned "threats"? I'm not seeing the connection here. Is there something else in the article you linked that does a better job of making that point than the quote you selected?

[il Padrino Ute]

Did he say the Tea Party is the source of the aforementioned "threats"? I'm not seeing the connection here. Is there something else in the article you linked that does a better job of making that point than the quote you selected?

No, he didn't state it, but it's only obvious that that is what he is talking about. It's not that difficult to figure out. Just look at how the current administration, the majority leaders and members of the House and Senate and media love to portray the Tea Party movement.

And the fact that he himself blamed talk radio for the Oklahoma City bombing can lead to the reasonable belief that Clinton believes that there is a connection between McVeigh and the Tea Party.

[Indy Coug]

It wasn't that long ago that some Michigan militia members were arrested for plotting political violence.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/28...ivity-midwest/

Then there was this guy

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...otting_mu.html

[Tim]

Did he say the Tea Party is the source of the aforementioned "threats"? I'm not seeing the connection here. Is there something else in the article you linked that does a better job of making that point than the quote you selected?

There is no connection. IPU has fabricated it. President Clinton's comments were geared toward the extreme on either side. In a speech he gave last week, he also said this:

What we learned from Oklahoma City is not that we should gag each other or that we should reduce our passion for the positions we hold - but that the words we use really do matter, because there's this vast echo chamber, and they go across space and they fall on the serious and the delirious alike. They fall on the connected and the unhinged alike.

IPU, do you disagree with that comment?

[Hallelujah]

is more proof that the left doesn't get it. In his NY Times op-ed piece, he was doing fine until the last paragraph when he stated this:



Excuse me?

I remember when Clinton blamed conservative talk radio for the Oklahoma City bombing. He was wrong then and he's wrong now. The Tea Party folks are not a violent group.

If any side is going to resort to violence, it's going to be the left, as evidenced by the attacks on the scum Neo-Nazi group that was protesting in LA over the weekend.

When will the left get it? They are the violent ones, not the Tea Party folks. Clinton and his ilk are apparently too arrogant to recognize who the real problems are in this county.

He should look no further than the environmental or PETA nuts for evidence of political violence.

I guess they should be concerned when they don't listen to the people and bribe congressmen to pass legislation at the expense of the people. And then you have the Pres mocking those people who are sincere about the tax and spend policies that the Pres has instituted through bribes. Makes for bad chemistry.

[Hallelujah]

There is no connection. IPU has fabricated it. President Clinton's comments were geared toward the extreme on either side. In a speech he gave last week, he also said this:



IPU, do you disagree with that comment?

He was talking to the extremists on EITHER side? Timmy, are you that clueless?

[il Padrino Ute]

There is no connection. IPU has fabricated it. President Clinton's comments were geared toward the extreme on either side. In a speech he gave last week, he also said this:



IPU, do you disagree with that comment?

I agree that we need to be careful what we say, yes. But can you honestly deny that Clinton is talking about the Tea Party folks here?

And do you think the paragraph you highlighted is meant for Obama and his arrogant comments directed at Tea Party members?

[Tim]

I agree that we need to be careful what we say, yes. But can you honestly deny that Clinton is talking about the Tea Party folks here?

And do you think the paragraph you highlighted is meant for Obama and his arrogant comments directed at Tea Party members?

I think that his comments are good in principle, and they apply to all people at all times, and he was clearly speaking in general terms, so I'm not going to go around digging for hidden connotations that do nothing more than feed my personal paranoias.

[byu71]

I think that his comments are good in principle, and they apply to all people at all times, and he was clearly speaking in general terms, so I'm not going to go around digging for hidden connotations that do nothing more than feed my personal paranoias.

Dang media. I have not heard Clinton's whole talk, but the shows I watched on CNN and CNBC made clear links from Clinton to the Tea party and of course Rush, Beck and now their new poster child, Michelle whatever her name is from Minnesota.

I have thought Clinton was dopey for a few days now and I shouldn't have. Like I said, dang media tarnishing the image I have of Clinton the uniter not the divider.

[BoylenOver]

is more proof that the left doesn't get it. In his NY Times op-ed piece, he was doing fine until the last paragraph when he stated this:



Excuse me?

I remember when Clinton blamed conservative talk radio for the Oklahoma City bombing. He was wrong then and he's wrong now. The Tea Party folks are not a violent group.

If any side is going to resort to violence, it's going to be the left, as evidenced by the attacks on the scum Neo-Nazi group that was protesting in LA over the weekend.

When will the left get it? They are the violent ones, not the Tea Party folks. Clinton and his ilk are apparently too arrogant to recognize who the real problems are in this county.

You're reaching, IPU.

[il Padrino Ute]

Dang media. I have not heard Clinton's whole talk, but the shows I watched on CNN and CNBC made clear links from Clinton to the Tea party and of course Rush, Beck and now their new poster child, Michelle whatever her name is from Minnesota.

It's amazing how many on the left deny this. We all know damn well that Clinton was referring to the Tea Party folks.

Her name is Bachmann. She rocks.

[BoylenOver]

It's amazing how many on the left deny this. We all know damn well that Clinton was referring to the Tea Party folks.

You must've missed this quote from the very same op-ed piece:

Civic virtue can include harsh criticism, protest, even civil disobedience. But not violence or its advocacy.

If you believe the Tea Party movement advocates violence, then yeah, Clinton is speaking out against it. But then again, the liberal media saying the Tea Party movement advocates violence is a harsh and unfair mischaracterization, IIRC.

[il Padrino Ute]

You must've missed this quote from the very same op-ed piece:



If you believe the Tea Party movement advocates violence, then yeah, Clinton is speaking out against it. But then again, the liberal media saying the Tea Party movement advocates violence is a harsh and unfair mischaracterization, IIRC.

I saw that quote and if you read my original post, you'll notice that I said he was fine until his last paragraph.

I don't believe the Tea Party advocates violence, but the media does. Any coverage of it by any media other than Fox News shows the very few fringe types who have attached themselves to the movement.

[BoylenOver]

I saw that quote and if you read my original post, you'll notice that I said he was fine until his last paragraph.

There's not a single thing wrong with the final paragraph, unless you want to inject a different context into his comments than what he intended or just take it out of context.