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    So this was written by a friend. The faculty advisor pulled it from a BYU review because it was too "edgy" and that comparing the Netherlands and Utah was inappropriate as a comparison.

    Though others may find fault the author and I don't blame the advisor.

    I blame the lousy institution known as BYU. It is a farcical never neverland of academia where reality is routinely ignored, truth is brushed under the rug and fear amongst faculty remains at "red" levels.


    (the person who wrote this holds no ill will for the advisor...my editorial is my own...i think all understand of the predicament of the professor: publish a controversial article and risk one's job or do the right thing with no real benefit other than moral satisfaction...again, this is the fault of the institution, not the professor.

    BYU is hands down the most ridiculous "academic" institution this side of Bob Jones University. There is nothing controversial here that grown adults can't discuss rationally

    Article Follows:

    Education: Curbing Utah’s Rising Teen Pregnancy Rate

    Last year a pregnant 17-year-old girl paid a man $150 to beat her, hoping it would induce a late term miscarriage. In response, the Utah State Legislature responded passed a bill with a frightening loophole that could criminalize a woman for an accidental miscarriage, regardless of intent. This bill is far from necessary and avoids the root of the problem altogether: Utah teens aren’t being educated about sex.

    Utah lawmakers are confident in the idealism of an abstinence only sex-ed program, but they are ignoring important statistics: Utah teen pregnancies have doubled since 2002. While the statistic is slightly skewed by the number of young marriages, the numbers of pregnancies of unmarried teenagers remains high. Utah legislators need to consider which is worse: teenagers having sex, or teenagers having babies.

    Current state law requires the use of an abstinence program, encouraging marital sexual activity as the preventative measure against unwanted pregnancies, the curriculum of choice for a conservative state reluctant to talk about sex in schools. Where Utah’s sex-ed is problematic is how it constrains teachers from discussing anything but abstinence. Teachers are not allowed to engage in discussion regarding sex outside of marriage or the use of contraceptives. High school students taking Anatomy and Physiology must have parental consent in order to be present during the reproductive unit. Even discussing the use of contraceptives is prohibited. Their hope is that parents will make up the difference. A home based sex-ed, is desirable to Utah legislators, but parental involvement isn’t universal. Some kids aren’t being educated at all.

    Despite the alarming rise in teen pregnancy, Utah lawmakers continue to oppose alternate sex-ed programs. For example, the state legislature recently refused even to debate a bill allowing teachers to discuss the benefits and drawbacks of preventative measures against pregnancy and diseases. This unabashed opposition to alternative sex-ed programs stems from a gross misconception that current abstinence only education is preventing unmarried teenage pregnancies and abortions. But when that teenage girl from Vernal decided to have a man beat her to induce an abortion, the Utah legislature failed to respond to the obvious problem: despite an education program structured to limit teenage sex, teenage girls in Utah are still getting pregnant. Utah lawmakers need to jettison ideological dogma and look to sex-ed programs that will reduce teenage pregnancies.

    The Netherlands, for example, has adopted a statistically favorable approach to sex education. Children learn about sex at the age of five in schools, but most children are also actively taught in the home with their parents. They learn both the anatomy and the importance of love and consent in a sexual relationship, and by ten they understand how to use different forms of contraceptives to prevent disease and pregnancy. The Dutch’s failure to not shy away from sex as a topic may be controversial to conservatives wishing the topic remain an exclusive parent-child discussion, but the proof lies in what is the lowest teenage birthrate in the West. Utah’s teen pregnancy rate is over 5 times that of that Netherlands, 53 pregnant per 1000 girls as compared to 11.8 per 1000. Schools and parents share the uncomfortable but vital burden of sex-ed, compared to Utah where it’s brushed under the rug. Such an early education with a wide scope comparing and contrasting various preventative methods might scare Utah lawmakers and lobbyists, but it’s provided Dutch teenagers with the educational resources to discourage reckless sexual behavior, resources that began early enough to encourage safe and appropriate sexual practices. This open and honest approach to sex results in very few Dutch teenagers getting pregnant.

    Today children are discovering sex at an earlier age, but, unlike the Dutch, they don’t have the broad education necessary to protect them against the consequences accompanying sex. Involved parents will teach their children, but the growing pregnancy rate shows some Utah teens are having sex whether their parents (and Bishops) like it or not.

    Utah must improve the discussion and, at the very least, allow teachers to talk about contraceptives. It will ensure that Utah’s teens are well educated if and when they decide to have premarital sex. If not, more teenage girls will opt for the Vernal route, taking yet more drastic and abhorrent measures to eliminate pregnancies that could have been prevented.

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    I have found that another nice way to make this argument is to also compare abortion rates between the US and the Netherlands. You can get an abortion on every street corner in the Netherlands, yet we perform MANY more abortions.

    Here is a recent post of mine from CB:

    Pasadena inspired this, since he questioned my reasoning about unwanted pregnancies and abortion rates by country. Like I said, it seems to me that American purtanism is the main reason for our high abortion rates. Teenagers are not properly educated in America about how to prevent pregnancy.

    per 1000 women 15-19

    Numbers organized as: Birth Rate / Abortion Rate / Combined Rate

    Netherlands: 7.7 / 3.9 / 11.6
    Spain: 7.5 / 4.9 / 12.4
    Italy: 6.6 / 6.7 / 13.3
    Greece: 12.2 / 1.3 / 13.5
    Belgium: 9.9 / 5.2 / 15.1
    United States: 55.6 / 30.2 / 85.8

    (Incidentally, the Dutch have a HIGHER average age of first intercourse. Why do you think the DUTCH of all people would wait? Furthermore, Dutch are much more likely to use both hormonal contraceptive and a condom. This is because they are better educated when it comes to sex.)
    That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens

    http://twitter.com/SoonerCoug

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    • #3
      The faculty advisors for NewNet have plenty of headaches.
      We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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      • #4
        I'm SO happy to hear your thoughts on BYU. I'd read more, but I'm trying to find what Tehran thinks about Israel. I'm just such a sucker for informed and objective opinions.
        τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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        • #5
          You're so biased that it would not matter the merit of the argument. That and pyramid schemes

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          • #6
            Disappointment all around. I thought they had banned more nude statues.
            "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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            • #7
              BYU is a horrible institution, but I still love BYU football!
              Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Viking View Post
                You're so biased that it would not matter the merit of the argument. That and pyramid schemes
                Biased, am I? If you think I'm in the least bit afraid to be critical about BYU, I can refer you to scores of people I pissed off during all four years I was at BYU. I've walked out of church meetings, railed against enforcement of the Honor Code, advocated a de-emphasis of religion, opposed prayer in classes, and criticized student government groups for promoting an effort to read the book of Mormon, and I've done so over the objection of friends, family, and church leaders. I also learned to be highly suspicious of sources capable of making one and only one kind of argument, and by that measure, you're worse by far than FARMS.

                I advise you to become a student of SU's posts. If you insist on endlessly beating on the same drum, please, for the sake of our acoustic sensitivities, learn to do so with a little grace and rhythm.
                τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by All-American View Post
                  Biased, am I? If you think I'm in the least bit afraid to be critical about BYU, I can refer you to scores of people I pissed off during all four years I was at BYU. I've walked out of church meetings, railed against enforcement of the Honor Code, advocated a de-emphasis of religion, opposed prayer in classes, and criticized student government groups for promoting an effort to read the book of Mormon, and I've done so over the objection of friends, family, and church leaders. I also learned to be highly suspicious of sources capable of making one and only one kind of argument, and by that measure, you're worse by far than FARMS.
                  I like you a lot more than I used to, AA. It's not that I didn't like you before, but you just won major bonus points with me for some of this stuff. I realize you maybe don't care what I think about you, but I wanted to let you know.
                  That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens

                  http://twitter.com/SoonerCoug

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by All-American View Post
                    Biased, am I? If you think I'm in the least bit afraid to be critical about BYU, I can refer you to scores of people I pissed off during all four years I was at BYU. I've walked out of church meetings, railed against enforcement of the Honor Code, advocated a de-emphasis of religion, opposed prayer in classes, and criticized student government groups for promoting an effort to read the book of Mormon, and I've done so over the objection of friends, family, and church leaders. I also learned to be highly suspicious of sources capable of making one and only one kind of argument, and by that measure, you're worse by far than FARMS.
                    Holy [crap]! All-AMcLovin is a bad ass!
                    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                      Holy [crap]! All-AMcLovin is a bad ass!
                      As long as we're talking about accomplishments, I thought I'd bring up a few of my own. I once hit six 3-pointers in the same half including one at the buzzer to win a huge game when my team was down by 2 points. This was not Church ball either. This was 8th-grade city league. Several years later, my basketball career reached its pinnacle as I led my ward to a region title. Since then, a sedentary lifestyle has put things on hold. To make matters worse, Okie Mormons don't play church ball.
                      That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens

                      http://twitter.com/SoonerCoug

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                        Holy [crap]! All-AMcLovin is a bad ass!
                        I decided to make a few lifestyle changes after I was voted the most likely of CUF (or was it CG? I can't remember) to be a GA. Darned if they ever try to stick me in one of those chairs.
                        τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by All-American View Post
                          Biased, am I? If you think I'm in the least bit afraid to be critical about BYU, I can refer you to scores of people I pissed off during all four years I was at BYU. I've walked out of church meetings, railed against enforcement of the Honor Code, advocated a de-emphasis of religion, opposed prayer in classes, and criticized student government groups for promoting an effort to read the book of Mormon, and I've done so over the objection of friends, family, and church leaders. I also learned to be highly suspicious of sources capable of making one and only one kind of argument, and by that measure, you're worse by far than FARMS.

                          I advise you to become a student of SU's posts. If you insist on endlessly beating on the same drum, please, for the sake of our acoustic sensitivities, learn to do so with a little grace and rhythm.
                          Sounds like you need to relax also. Geesh, how dare they promote the BofM!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Viking View Post
                            You're so biased that it would not matter the merit of the argument. That and pyramid schemes
                            Couldn't the same be said about you regarding BYU?

                            Wow. Did I just defend BYU? Get your food storage ready...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                              Sounds like you need to relax also. Geesh, how dare they promote the BofM!
                              A little more background is in order.

                              This was in 2005, when President Hinckley asked all members to read the Book of Mormon by the end of the year. BYUSA rallied to the cause, and started putting up posters, passing out fliers, and doing what it could to encourage students to comply with President Hinckley's request. That seemed to me to be outside of the scope of the job description of a university-wide student organization. There is already an organization devoted to my spiritual welfare-- the church. BYUSA's job is to organize dances and tailgate parties.

                              And so I wrote a letter to the daily universe, suggesting that BYUSA's resources might be better devoted to sparking the somewhat anemic social scene in Provo. Said letter, upon publication, did not escape the attention of my boss or my bishop, both of whom had a little chat with me over the content.
                              τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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