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[Maximus]

From that perspective, it did seem a bit unnecessary. But then again, I've never been impacted by a suicide bomber either, so who is to say their actions weren't justified and precautionary?

They were not suicide bombers. They were protesting.

[Colly Wolly]

There is something to be said for context. Weekly protests at that location, frequently resulting in severe injuries on both sides. Both sides are following established routines, it seems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bil'in

[Colly Wolly]

They were not suicide bombers. They were protesting.

Easy for you to say.

[Maximus]

Easy for you to say.

So Palestinians cant protest because some are terrorists?

[Colly Wolly]

So Palestinians cant protest because some are terrorists?

Well, I don't know. Given the track record, I'd be wary of letting someone from the opposition get too close given the history of violence at the site and past suicide bombing behavior. Like I said, from that perspective it seemed unnecessary. From the other perspective it could very well seem like an appropriate precautionary measure. Trying as best I can to see it from both sides. You?

[Maximus]

Well, I don't know. Given the track record, I'd be wary of letting someone from the opposition get too close given the history of violence at the site and past suicide bombing behavior. Like I said, from that perspective it seemed unnecessary. From the other perspective it could very well seem like an appropriate precautionary measure. Trying as best I can to see it from both sides. You?

Of course in some situations tear gas could be appropriate. Unfortunately Israel does not have a good track record in using appropriate force. As I said before, Israel has used live bullets in protests.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054269.html

There are many other examples.

[old_gregg]

do you think that would be acceptable in the US?

it would be acceptable if it was a group that was making violent threats and a history of blowing up civilians, especially in the context of large crowds.

what you're saying doesn't make sense. i can't buy large quantities of potassium nitrate because some people use it for bombs.

[Colly Wolly]

Of course in some situations tear gas could be appropriate. Unfortunately Israel does not have a good track record in using appropriate force. As I said before, Israel has used live bullets in protests.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054269.html

There are many other examples.

Have you ever shot a .22? Gimme a rock or a spent tear gas canister any day over that pea-shooter crap.

[Maximus]

Have you ever shot a .22? Gimme a rock or a spent tear gas canister any day over that pea-shooter crap.

yet dozens of protesters died from Israeli fire before the suicide bombing started in the second intifada.

[old_gregg]

israel has used excessive force in response to acts of terrorism; it's not like they're unloading bullets into crowds of palestinian children for no reason. culpability matters.

[Colly Wolly]

yet dozens of protesters died from Israeli fire before the suicide bombing started in the second intifada.

Trading examples of instances where one side wronged the other is a fool's errand.

[old_gregg]

dozens of protesters died from Israeli fire

if by died you mean "lightly wounded (exactly what your article says)," that would be more accurate

[Maximus]

if by died you mean "lightly wounded (exactly what your article says)," that would be more accurate

read before you respond. I was talking about the time during the second intifada.