So long John Muhammad.

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  • UtahDan
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    • Nov 2008
    • 14496

    #1

    So long John Muhammad.






    You should have stayed out of the Old Dominion. Oh, and don't let the door hit you in the ass.
  • UtahDan
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    • Nov 2008
    • 14496

    #2
    I remember when this was all going on I was in law school and my wife and I were driving up to DC every day where I was in school and she was working. The killings were happening all around us. I remember distinctly going to get gas for my vehicle and walking around while it pumped, trying to be cautious not to be a stationary target, and then getting out of there as soon as possible. I wouldn't let my wife go get gas or go to a convenience store at all. This was right after 9/11 as well so people in the DC area were pretty on edge.

    In the end, from my perspective, the right thing is being done. Malvo who was the impressionable teenager is probably less culpable and as a consequence will live. Muhammad, on the other hand, will receive the retribution of the people of my state. If there was ever a capital case, this is it.

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    • pellegrino
      miserere me
      • Jan 2009
      • 12100

      #3
      Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
      In the end, from my perspective, the right thing is being done. Malvo who was the impressionable teenager is probably less culpable and as a consequence will live. Muhammad, on the other hand, will receive the retribution of the people of my state. If there was ever a capital case, this is it.
      So are you in favor of capital punishment in all instances or just a select few?
      Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
      God forgives many things for an act of mercy
      Alessandro Manzoni

      Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

      pelagius

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      • Non Sequitur
        Where did I put my bodkin
        • Nov 2008
        • 5773

        #4
        Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
        Muhammad, on the other hand, will receive the retribution of the people of my state. If there was ever a capital case, this is it.
        Is capital punishment about retribution? And if so, should it be?
        "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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        • SeattleUte
          Faith crisis consultant
          • Nov 2008
          • 20837

          #5
          Originally posted by UtahDan View Post





          You should have stayed out of the Old Dominion. Oh, and don't let the door hit you in the ass.
          The cycle of violence continues. It never ends.
          When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

          --Jonathan Swift

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          • Pheidippides
            Liberal Feminazi
            • Nov 2008
            • 14759

            #6
            Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
            Is capital punishment about retribution? And if so, should it be?
            From my point of view, the answers are Yes and No. But I am against capital punishment generally, and I should put that out there in full disclosure.
            Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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            • falafel
              loves to talk on things
              • Mar 2009
              • 38021

              #7
              This seems quick. I thought death penalty cases were normally dragged out over decades. This took less than 10 years. Did he not exhaust all avenues of appeal?
              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

              Dig your own grave, and save!

              "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

              "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • UtahDan
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                • Nov 2008
                • 14496

                #8
                The death penalty is about retribution. Specific deterrence as well. I am in favor of keeping it as a penalty.

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                • creekster
                  It is NOT a monkey!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 22661

                  #9
                  I think asking about the death penalty when you are looking at a case like this is like asking about moderate eating when you ahve been starving for a few weeks.

                  I am opposed to the death penalty on principle, but it is hard to get worked up about some executions, adn this is one of them.
                  PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                  • pellegrino
                    miserere me
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 12100

                    #10
                    Originally posted by creekster View Post
                    I am opposed to the death penalty on principle, but it is hard to get worked up about some executions, adn this is one of them.
                    This is exactly how I feel.
                    Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                    God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                    Alessandro Manzoni

                    Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                    pelagius

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                    • JohnnyLingo
                      La Naranja
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 3976

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                      This is exactly how I feel.
                      Can either of you define "it's hard to get worked up" for me?

                      Do you oppose the execution of John Muhammad?

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                      • falafel
                        loves to talk on things
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 38021

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                        Can either of you define "it's hard to get worked up" for me?

                        Do you oppose the execution of John Muhammad?
                        I think they're saying that they don't.
                        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                        Dig your own grave, and save!

                        "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                        "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • JohnnyLingo
                          La Naranja
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 3976

                          #13
                          Originally posted by falafel View Post
                          I think they're saying that they don't.
                          Which brings us to the fuzzy line of "who deserves to die?"

                          I get the feeling no one wants to play that game.

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                          • TripletDaddy
                            sweet triple
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 58186

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                            Which brings us to the fuzzy line of "who deserves to die?"

                            I get the feeling no one wants to play that game.
                            go with your gut on this one.
                            Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

                            sigpic

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                            • Pheidippides
                              Liberal Feminazi
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14759

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                              This is exactly how I feel.
                              Me too.
                              Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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