Census worker found hanged in Rural Kentucky...

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  • dabrockster
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 10942

    #1

    Census worker found hanged in Rural Kentucky...

    I do not understand why people would do such a thing.

    I also see this as more fuel to the talk about home grown militia's being dangerous..

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  • wuapinmon
    Soul Plumber
    • Dec 2008
    • 30711

    #2
    I was a Census enumerator in 2000 in Provo, Utah. Some people refused to speak with me at all, becoming hostile that I was on their property. When I explained that I wasn't soliciting and that it was the law that they had to complete a census form, some people would slam the door; some would threaten to release their hounds a la Montgomery Burns; some would break down in tears and tell me how they were hiding from their ex-husbands.

    Census workers have a hard job; hardly anyone liked talking to me except old retired folks who gave me the "when I was a kid, all of this was pasture and orchards" speeches.
    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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    • TripletDaddy
      sweet triple
      • Nov 2008
      • 58186

      #3
      Being a census worker is dangerous!

      Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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      • Green Lantern
        Has overcome great fear
        • Aug 2009
        • 2289

        #4
        Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
        Being a census worker is dangerous!

        Now I'm hungry for fava beans and chianti.
        Kids in general these days seem more socially retarded...

        None of them date. They hang out. They text. They sit in the same car or room and don't say a word...they text. Then, they go home and whack off to internet porn.

        I think that's the sad truth about why these kids are retards.

        --Portland Ute

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        • statman
          Rabblerouser
          • Aug 2009
          • 2799

          #5
          Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
          I do not understand why people would do such a thing.

          I also see this as more fuel to the talk about home grown militia's being dangerous..

          Link:
          http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090924/D9ATL1BO0.html
          Ummm - because rural Kentcky (along with Humboldt County, CA) is the marijuana capital of the US. Feds - any Feds - running around the hills asking questions, poking there nose into other people's business, is going to be seen as an unwelcome and threatening intrusion.

          Earlier in this centrury, it was moonshiners who would have done this. Now it's marijuana growers.

          (I was hometeaching last night with a guy who grew up in rural Kentucky. When I asked him about the incident, his immediate reaction was "I haven't heard about it. He must've stumbled on to someone's marijuana field")

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          • LiveCoug
            LA Ute loves me
            • Nov 2008
            • 18486

            #6
            I was a census worker in 2000 in rural Duchesne county. That was an interesting experience. Some places, I had to drive my car up into the mountains on a crappy dirt road in order to find some trailer to get a census. The road usually became too dangerous to drive and I had to hoof it to find these people. I don't know why I did it. When I got to these peoples hideouts/cabins/trailers, they were usually not too happy. I had a shotgun turned on me a couple times. Good times.

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            • RobinFinderson
              Banned
              • Nov 2008
              • 10548

              #7
              Originally posted by statman View Post
              Ummm - because rural Kentcky (along with Humboldt County, CA) is the marijuana capital of the US. Feds - any Feds - running around the hills asking questions, poking there nose into other people's business, is going to be seen as an unwelcome and threatening intrusion.

              Earlier in this centrury, it was moonshiners who would have done this. Now it's marijuana growers.

              (I was hometeaching last night with a guy who grew up in rural Kentucky. When I asked him about the incident, his immediate reaction was "I haven't heard about it. He must've stumbled on to someone's marijuana field")
              It makes no sense for a pot-farmer to turn a murder into a political statement, and thus draw even more police focus on their operation. If you end up killing someone to protect your illegal business, you want to discard the body discretely.

              This murder was committed by someone who wanted to make a political statement. That just doesn't fit the typical weed farmer's MO.

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              • smokymountainrain
                Impressive Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 22593

                #8
                Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                I was a census worker in 2000 in rural Duchesne county. That was an interesting experience. Some places, I had to drive my car up into the mountains on a crappy dirt road in order to find some trailer to get a census. The road usually became too dangerous to drive and I had to hoof it to find these people. I don't know why I did it. When I got to these peoples hideouts/cabins/trailers, they were usually not too happy. I had a shotgun turned on me a couple times. Good times.
                Sounds like the makings of a good 'Deliverance' sequel.
                I'm like LeBron James.
                -mpfunk

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                • Goatnapper'96
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10924

                  #9
                  Originally posted by statman View Post
                  Ummm - because rural Kentcky (along with Humboldt County, CA) is the marijuana capital of the US. Feds - any Feds - running around the hills asking questions, poking there nose into other people's business, is going to be seen as an unwelcome and threatening intrusion.

                  Earlier in this centrury, it was moonshiners who would have done this. Now it's marijuana growers.

                  (I was hometeaching last night with a guy who grew up in rural Kentucky. When I asked him about the incident, his immediate reaction was "I haven't heard about it. He must've stumbled on to someone's marijuana field")
                  Marijuana fields are generally located a great distance from where people live. Even the ruralest of rural rednecks in Kin-Tuckee! I am not denying that perhaps that redneck Appalachian mistrust of outsiders and the federal government might have played a significant role, just that I doubt the census guys stumbled upon any field of wacky-packy.
                  Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                  -General George S. Patton

                  I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                  -DOCTOR Wuap

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                  • pellegrino
                    miserere me
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 12100

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
                    It makes no sense for a pot-farmer to turn a murder into a political statement, and thus draw even more police focus on their operation. If you end up killing someone to protect your illegal business, you want to discard the body discretely.

                    This murder was committed by someone who wanted to make a political statement. That just doesn't fit the typical weed farmer's MO.
                    You underestimate rural Appalachia. They've revolted many times before.
                    Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                    God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                    Alessandro Manzoni

                    Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                    pelagius

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                    • statman
                      Rabblerouser
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 2799

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
                      It makes no sense for a pot-farmer to turn a murder into a political statement, and thus draw even more police focus on their operation. If you end up killing someone to protect your illegal business, you want to discard the body discretely.

                      This murder was committed by someone who wanted to make a political statement. That just doesn't fit the typical weed farmer's MO.
                      Who saids anythign about a political statement? And who said anythign about discrete? The pot fields are hardly secret. And they did not discretely get rid of the body to serve as a very public warning to the next census worker/IRS agent/BATF agent/any other 'Fed' who might want to go wandering into the hills that they'd be a lot safer if they stayed away.

                      Or the murder was completely unrelated to marijuana, and someone wanted to make it look that way...

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                      • Teenage Dirtbag
                        Since 1971
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 1096

                        #12
                        "Agents are trying to determine if foul play was involved and whether it had anything to do with Sparkman's job as Census worker, Beyer said."

                        So...is their other theory that he was overcome with guilt for working for the "man", so he carved "Fed" into his chest and hung himself?

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                        • FN Phat
                          I ♥ gateway sex
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 8691

                          #13
                          I live in rural Kentucky. I work with some folks that I would not be surprised to find out that they have someone swinging from the trees.
                          I'm your huckleberry.


                          "I love pulling the bone. Really though, what guy doesn't?" - CJF

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                          • RobinFinderson
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 10548

                            #14
                            Originally posted by statman View Post
                            Who saids anythign about a political statement? And who said anythign about discrete? The pot fields are hardly secret. And they did not discretely get rid of the body to serve as a very public warning to the next census worker/IRS agent/BATF agent/any other 'Fed' who might want to go wandering into the hills that they'd be a lot safer if they stayed away.

                            Or the murder was completely unrelated to marijuana, and someone wanted to make it look that way...
                            Can you point to a single documented case where a Kentucky marijuana farmer murdered a federal worker and then set the corpse up as a scarecrow to put fear into the hearts of other government workers?

                            You are saying that this looks like a murder by a marijuana farmer. Fine. Based on what?

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                            • statman
                              Rabblerouser
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 2799

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RobinFinderson View Post
                              Can you point to a single documented case where a Kentucky marijuana farmer murdered a federal worker and then set the corpse up as a scarecrow to put fear into the hearts of other government workers?

                              You are saying that this looks like a murder by a marijuana farmer. Fine. Based on what?
                              Based on a couple centuries of behavior of moonshiners in the same area.

                              Marijuana. It's the new moonshine...

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