Running help

[falafel]

Jared the one piece of advice I'd give was the hardest thing for me (and for all new runners I think) to finally learn. Realize that your heart and lungs will be ready for big jumps before your legs are. I've probably been hurt 5 different times because I pushed speed work or increased mileage waaaaay before my legs were ready just because I was feeling great.

I'm not much of a runner, and perhaps this is why. Whenever I start getting into it, I get injured b/c I want to push it. I think if you are exercising for weight loss, this can be a big issue b/c the more weight you lose, the more you want to push it. I always need to feel like my heart rate is way up there, and pretty soon my legs can't take it.

Any advice on what to do until your legs catch up Steel?

[Pheidippides]

Jared the one piece of advice I'd give was the hardest thing for me (and for all new runners I think) to finally learn. Realize that your heart and lungs will be ready for big jumps before your legs are. I've probably been hurt 5 different times because I pushed speed work or increased mileage waaaaay before my legs were ready just because I was feeling great.

Amen. I second this. I've read that you should increase your weekly mileage load or your max long run by more than 10% at a time. I got injured the one time I ignored that rule.

[SteelBlue]

I'm not much of a runner, and perhaps this is why. Whenever I start getting into it, I get injured b/c I want to push it. I think if you are exercising for weight loss, this can be a big issue b/c the more weight you lose, the more you want to push it. I always need to feel like my heart rate is way up there, and pretty soon my legs can't take it.

Any advice on what to do until your legs catch up Steel?

Don't up your mileage more than 10%/week no matter how good you feel. If I'd followed that one rule when I started a few years back I would have avoided several injuries. And the thing is I KNOW that it's true I would just reach a point where I felt like it didn't apply to me because I was feeling so good. Just get several months of base mileage in before you start worrying about times and I think you'd be much better off.

You know, Nike+ iPod really motivated me and several others on this board to run a few years back and I am grateful for that. But the challenge system, probably the coolest part of the whole site, got me and many others hurt more than anything else. When you are close to winning a distance challenge or a speed challenge the competitive guy inside wants to win it and you do things you shouldn't.

[Surfah]

You know, Nike+ iPod really motivated me and several others on this board to run a few years back and I am grateful for that. But the challenge system, probably the coolest part of the whole site, got me and many others hurt more than anything else. When you are close to winning a distance challenge or a speed challenge the competitive guy inside wants to win it and you do things you shouldn't.

I haven't ran in about 12 days now. My hip is feeling better. It no longer pops. I really haven't done any regimented exercise during that time except for a few rounds of golf, yard work, etc. I am hoping to start up again tomorrow. And I will be starting slow, all over again.

[doctorcoug]

Amen. I second this. I've read that you should increase your weekly mileage load or your max long run by more than 10% at a time. I got injured the one time I ignored that rule.

I'm not a fan of the 10 percent rule. That 10 percent rule works for runners that were in shape and took 3-4 weeks off. 10 percent for somebody just starrig out is way too much. If you are running 14 miles a week, you should be running about that far one month layer with no increase in tempo.

[falafel]

I'm not a fan of the 10 percent rule. That 10 percent rule works for runners that were in shape and took 3-4 weeks off. 10 percent for somebody just starrig out is way too much. If you are running 14 miles a week, you should be running about that far one month layer with no increase in tempo.

I don't think I follow you.

[Pheidippides]

I don't think I follow you.

Neither do the marathon trainers I have read. Nor my very own ex BYU track family member. They've all agreed that the 10% rule is just fine for me. Mind you, it wasn't like I started from scratch (I've been running inconsistently for a couple of years, plus playing basketball, etc., so I wasn't starting from the couch).

So it's nice that doctorcoug doesn't like the 10% rule, but I'm not sure I really care.

[ewth8tr]

I'm not a fan of the 10 percent rule. That 10 percent rule works for runners that were in shape and took 3-4 weeks off. 10 percent for somebody just starrig out is way too much. If you are running 14 miles a week, you should be running about that far one month layer with no increase in tempo.

Wow, you are an expert at running as well?

[doctorcoug]

Neither do the marathon trainers I have read. Nor my very own ex BYU track family member. They've all agreed that the 10% rule is just fine for me. Mind you, it wasn't like I started from scratch (I've been running inconsistently for a couple of years, plus playing basketball, etc., so I wasn't starting from the couch).

So it's nice that doctorcoug doesn't like the 10% rule, but I'm not sure I really care.

Re-read my post. The rule doesn't work for somebody like Jarid that is just starting out with his running training. Jarid isn't a marathon trainer, even though he is training for one.

I see your BYU runner family member and raise you a former BYU runner (me).

[Solon]

I see your BYU runner family member and raise you a former BYU runner (me).

Wow. Is it going to be that kind of pissing contest? I'm a little low on credentials, but I enjoy distance running at a slow pace. Oh, and I've run up the stairs at the Philly museum of art like Rocky did.

Just do what's comfortable for your body. High arches/flat feet, shoes, climate, terrain, hydration, and nutrition can all impact your run. Just have fun and be patient if it takes your body up to a year to adapt to regular running.

FWIW, I'm a big fan of Galloway's system: http://www.jeffgalloway.com/ , since I'm more concerned about a quick recovery than posting the fastest time.

[doctorcoug]

Beware, I'm high on diet coke and ready to have an award winning diuresis.

[Pheidippides]

Re-read my post. The rule doesn't work for somebody like Jarid that is just starting out with his running training. Jarid isn't a marathon trainer, even though he is training for one.

I see your BYU runner family member and raise you a former BYU runner (me).

Yes, you already said that. Bully for you. It doesn't make me care any more, or trust my SIL from the BYU team (or my BIL from the Navy team, for that matter) any less.

For all you know, I don't really have such family members. For all I know, you are a fat tub of lard who found out about wikipedia one day.

Let me make sure I am very clear here so you do not misunderstand what I am saying. You have come onto multiple boards now, pretended to be a doctor when you were not, generally acted like an know-it-all, and come off as a grade-A narcissistic internet wanna-be internet legend. I don't care if you say you won the damn gold medal in the marathon at Beijing or finished with a sub 2:30 in Boston last year; at this point, nobody on here believes a word you say. In short, it doesn't matter if you are right because it is you. Was that clear enough for you?

Welcome to the community.

[doctorcoug]

Sorry you feel that way.

I've explained myself before and my username choice, yet you still bring this up.

My posts here were to help Jarid. I do feel I have some expert opinion on this issue and had good advice for him and I'm not ashamed for sharing. Maybe I should have PMed him to avoid coming off as an arrogant know-it-all.

I've never lied about my experiences. You just don't believe me because you got hung up on doctorcoug. For your proof, Deanna Buck is the BYU Track Secretary. An email was sent to all BYU track alumni on 09/08/08, 07/31/08, and 05/20/08. Also, an email was sent to all BYU track alumni on 04/21/06 that reads this:

This spring, BYU will host the Mountain West Conference Track and Field Championships (May 10–13) and the NCAA West Region Track and Field Championships (May 26–27). We invite you to attend these two meets and the Track Alumni Events we are holding in conjunction with them.


There will be a hosting area for former BYU track and cross country athletes at both events and a reunion and banquet for track alumni and their immediate families in conjunction with the conference championship meet. The banquet will be held on Friday, May 12, at 7:00 pm in the west annex of the Smith Fieldhouse. The banquet is free for you and your immediate family; however, tickets are required.

Go to www.byutrack.com to RSVP for the event. We need to hear from you by May 5th.

Please share this information with any of your BYU Track teammates with whom you’ve stayed in contact. If you have questions, you may reply to this message.

We hope to see you in May!

The BYU Track & Field Alumni Committee

I guess you will think I made this stuff up, though, because I have a history of lying about things.

BTW, you work with physicians in recruiting, you should know that most are narcissistic.

[ERCougar]

Re-read my post. The rule doesn't work for somebody like Jarid that is just starting out with his running training. Jarid isn't a marathon trainer, even though he is training for one.

I see your BYU runner family member and raise you a former BYU runner (me).

So what exactly works for someone just starting running? Because if you can't even increase by 10%, then my math tells me that they have no hope of getting off the couch without serious risk of injury.

You're absolutely wrong on this, by the way. Even if your BYU cross-country story is true (I'm skeptical...), a whole lot of experts (and milllions of runners' experience) would say otherwise.

[Pheidippides]

Sorry you feel that way.

No, I suspect you're not. Also, you not surprisingly missed the point. But my group of two has become three.

I finished my Philly run to the top of the stairs and relinquish this place to the rightful owners thererof, with my apologies for the usurpation.