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  • doctorcoug
    To Win is to Honor Him
    • Jun 2009
    • 2273

    #1

    Migraine Sufferers, Eat your Butterbur

    This is very fascinating recommendations from the neurologists, a Level A recommendation for an herbal. This doesn't happen very often.
    NSAIDs and Complementary Approaches

    In a separate document, the AAN/AHS guidelines committee reviewed evidence supporting the use of NSAIDs and other complementary therapies. Fifteen class I or class II studies involved these migraine prevention strategies.

    Level A:

    Petasites or butterbur is effective and should be offered to patients to reduce the frequency and severity of attacks.

    Level B agents considered probably effective:

    Fenoprofen;

    Ibuprofen;

    Ketoprofen;

    Naproxen;

    Naproxen sodium;

    MIG-99 (feverfew);

    Magnesium;

    Riboflavin (vitamin B2); and

    Subcutaneous histamine.
    "Don't expect I'll see you 'till after the race"

    "So where does the power come from to see the race to its end...from within"
  • wuapinmon
    Soul Plumber
    • Dec 2008
    • 30711

    #2
    I'm going to check this out. I never ever had a migraine until I took corticosteroids for the first time. Now, I get them all the time. One day I thought there was a lightning bug in my house because I kept seeing bright flashes. Now, that's already happened to me twice today.
    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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    • doctorcoug
      To Win is to Honor Him
      • Jun 2009
      • 2273

      #3
      Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
      I'm going to check this out. I never ever had a migraine until I took corticosteroids for the first time. Now, I get them all the time. One day I thought there was a lightning bug in my house because I kept seeing bright flashes. Now, that's already happened to me twice today.
      All the time and twice today? See your doctor.

      The dose that apparently works the best is 75 mg twice a day.

      via a galaxy s3 far far away
      "Don't expect I'll see you 'till after the race"

      "So where does the power come from to see the race to its end...from within"

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      • wuapinmon
        Soul Plumber
        • Dec 2008
        • 30711

        #4
        Originally posted by doctorcoug View Post
        All the time and twice today? See your doctor.

        The dose that apparently works the best is 75 mg twice a day.

        via a galaxy s3 far far away
        I did. Today. Stress is my trigger. That and driving directly into sunlight.
        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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        • doctorcoug
          To Win is to Honor Him
          • Jun 2009
          • 2273

          #5
          Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
          Stress is my trigger.
          You need more sex.


          via a galaxy s3 far far away
          "Don't expect I'll see you 'till after the race"

          "So where does the power come from to see the race to its end...from within"

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          • wuapinmon
            Soul Plumber
            • Dec 2008
            • 30711

            #6
            Originally posted by doctorcoug View Post
            You need more sex.


            via a galaxy s3 far far away
            I don't think "enough" has ever happened to me.
            "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
            The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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            • doctorcoug
              To Win is to Honor Him
              • Jun 2009
              • 2273

              #7
              Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
              I don't think "enough" has ever happened to me.
              Go to a doctor and tell him/her (preferably him) that you get bad migraines brought on by stress, that you don't sleep well and that you are depressed. Tell him that these symptoms seem to go away during times of plenty but recur during famine. Ask if he thinks more sex would help. Then, ask for a prescription as needed for migraine prophylaxis

              Then, take the doctor to a really nice restaurant.

              (^_-)

              via a galaxy s3 far far away
              "Don't expect I'll see you 'till after the race"

              "So where does the power come from to see the race to its end...from within"

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              • wuapinmon
                Soul Plumber
                • Dec 2008
                • 30711

                #8
                Originally posted by doctorcoug View Post
                Go to a doctor and tell him/her (preferably him) that you get bad migraines brought on by stress, that you don't sleep well and that you are depressed. Tell him that these symptoms seem to go away during times of plenty but recur during famine. Ask if he thinks more sex would help. Then, ask for a prescription as needed for migraine prophylaxis

                Then, take the doctor to a really nice restaurant.

                (^_-)

                via a galaxy s3 far far away
                I don't want to have sex with my doctor.
                "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                • lambdacoug
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 3981

                  #9
                  Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                  I don't want to have sex with my doctor.
                  Try a massage parlor...
                  Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
                  - Howard Aiken

                  Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
                  - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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                  • doctorcoug
                    To Win is to Honor Him
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 2273

                    #10
                    Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                    I don't want to have sex with my doctor.
                    You don't know what you are missing out on. Not only that, but you could win an awesome malpractice lawsuit and get rich.

                    via a galaxy s3 far far away
                    "Don't expect I'll see you 'till after the race"

                    "So where does the power come from to see the race to its end...from within"

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                    • wuapinmon
                      Soul Plumber
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 30711

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lambdacoug View Post
                      Try a massage parlor...
                      Have you seen my wife? Shit. No way I'm two-timing that.
                      "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                      The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                      • lambdacoug
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 3981

                        #12
                        Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                        Have you seen my wife? Shit. No way I'm two-timing that.
                        No, I have not seen your wife. I'd play the open relationship angle for a few years and see where it takes you...
                        Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
                        - Howard Aiken

                        Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
                        - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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                        • wuapinmon
                          Soul Plumber
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 30711

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lambdacoug View Post
                          No, I have not seen your wife. I'd play the open relationship angle for a few years and see where it takes you...
                          If I knew you better, I'd make a really mean joke right now.
                          "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                          The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                          • lambdacoug
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 3981

                            #14
                            Originally posted by doctorcoug View Post
                            This is very fascinating recommendations from the neurologists, a Level A recommendation for an herbal. This doesn't happen very often.
                            NSAIDs and Complementary Approaches

                            In a separate document, the AAN/AHS guidelines committee reviewed evidence supporting the use of NSAIDs and other complementary therapies. Fifteen class I or class II studies involved these migraine prevention strategies.

                            Level A:

                            Petasites or butterbur is effective and should be offered to patients to reduce the frequency and severity of attacks.

                            Level B agents considered probably effective:

                            Fenoprofen;

                            Ibuprofen;

                            Ketoprofen;

                            Naproxen;

                            Naproxen sodium;

                            MIG-99 (feverfew);

                            Magnesium;

                            Riboflavin (vitamin B2); and

                            Subcutaneous histamine.
                            Thanks for posting this. Unfortunately, my migraines are too infrequent for preventative measures. Is there any indication that this will help with migraine severity/duration once one has begun?

                            At this point, I'll do anything to stop the pain when I get a migraine. The only thing that has ever worked is sleep, and the headache still lingers for the next week. Sleep is near impossible with the head splitting pain of the first few hours anyway. I've settled on the less than ideal method of rushing home when the aura hits, throwing back 4 shots and passing out. That method takes 15-30 minutes to fall asleep, versus an hour or two of sheer agony without it. Anything to stop/short circuit the pain. I've got some medication to try and stop the pain for the next one so I don't have to resort to that, but I'm skeptical it will work and enduring hours of migraine pain to try out a new method while avoiding a tried and true method is not enticing at all...not with that level of pain at stake.
                            Last edited by lambdacoug; 10-18-2012, 07:26 AM.
                            Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
                            - Howard Aiken

                            Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
                            - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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                            • doctorcoug
                              To Win is to Honor Him
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 2273

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lambdacoug View Post
                              Thanks for posting this. Unfortunately, my migraines are too infrequent for preventative measures. Is there any indication that this will help with migraine severity/duration once one has begun?

                              At this point, I'll do anything to stop the pain when I get a migraine. The only thing that has ever worked is sleep, and the headache still lingers for the next week. Sleep is near impossible with the head splitting pain of the first few hours anyway. I've settled on the less than ideal method of rushing home when the aura hits, throwing back 4 shots and passing out. That method takes 15-30 minutes to fall asleep, versus an hour or two of sheer agony without it. Anything to stop/short circuit the pain. I've got some medication to try and stop the pain for the next one so I don't have to resort to that, but I'm skeptical it will work and enduring hours of migraine pain to try out a new method while avoiding a tried and true method is not enticing at all...not with that level of pain at stake.
                              Ask your doctor about aspirin. There is good evidence that 1000 mg just as effective as the expensive migraine drugs.

                              via a galaxy s3 far far away
                              "Don't expect I'll see you 'till after the race"

                              "So where does the power come from to see the race to its end...from within"

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