I can't run because of my knees and road biking would be suicide here. I have been putting in at least 20 miles a day on a recumbent bike the last few weeks trying to get into shape. Can I participate?
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You and I had quite a heated rivalry that first time. I remember multiple time thinking about bagging my run only to ask myself what bluegoose was doing.Originally posted by bluegoose View PostBump.
I would love to get a fitness or mileage challenge going again this spring and summer. It really helped me a couple of years ago when we put it together to get off my butt and get moving.Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.
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Me too blue. I've not seen BBB on here for a while, and someone said she is the one who put it together.
Can we strongarm her into doing that again?"Newton's First Law of Motion: ...things at rest tend to stay at rest. Things in motion, tend to stay in motion...."
Hmm... Good motivation for me to remain active I guess.
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A 2011 Challenge would be great. During our ride Saturday, I thought a lot about the issue of cycling miles vs. running miles, and I still don't know what the most accurate ratio would be. The variables of inclines and exertion make it impossible to determine, I suppose. I'd probably go with 4:1, but I'd much rather do a bike century than a running marathon anytime. And I have no idea how to adjust for mountain biking.
Anyway, Summon BBB! She did a fine job with the spreadsheets.
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What about minutes exercised?
Not being a biker or swimmer, would a 30 minute swim be roughly equivalent to a 30 minute run?"Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."
- Ty Cobb
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I'd do it again
I may be small, but I'm slow.
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As someone who both rides and runs quite a bit. I think the exertion level falls somewhere close to 4:1 for road biking. I also think we should separate mountain biking from road biking, as they really are totally different sports.
The thing about running is that the level of exertion seems to increase exponentially beyond a certain level, somewhere between 15 and 20 miles. For most runners, a 10 mile run is not a really big deal, but a 16-20 miler is a huge deal. So, while a 4 mile run may be roughly equivalent to a 16 mile ride, a 26 mile run is, in my opinion, far more taxing than a 100 mile ride. Thats what makes it tough to go by straight miles.
Maybe we should have people propose what they think the appropriate constant should be for factoring their exercise minutes for their respective activities. Going by just exercise minutes really isn't fair to the runners or those that do other kinds of high-intensity work.
Once we get the formulas input into a spreadsheet, it shouldn't be too hard to maintain, should it?
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The ratio is very subjective. Here is how I see it: running requires a certain level of exertion to run, no matter what. it is a pretty high threshold. Cycling, OTOH, has a very low exertion threshold to being. IOW, almost anyone can ride a bike at 10 mph on the flat and do it for a number of miles. At those speeds the gap between running and cycling is huge. But if you are talking about riding at 18 mph or faster, the gap is much, much narrower. so the ratio could be anywhere from 3:1 to 5:1 depending on the assumption you are making about the cyclist. I think about 3.5 would be good for this exercise.PLesa excuse the tpyos.
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How about this, and feel free to modify as you see fit:
Running - input as regular mileage
Road Biking - 4:1 ratio
Mountain Biking - 2:1
Swimming - .25:1 (ie. 1 mile swim = 4 mile run)
Exercise class - 8 minutes :1 mile
So, the results would be input as minutes or miles, depending on the activity, but would be displayed on the spreadsheet results in the running mileage equivalent.
Does that make any sense? I'm not a spreadsheet guy, but I imagine that BBB or one of you could whip this thing up with your eyes closed.
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I support these numbers. It does live open the question of exercise machines like ellipticals, but I'd be fine going with an 8 minute/mile conversion factor there too. I think it's not quite right, but we need to give them a boost to account for the boredom.Originally posted by bluegoose View PostHow about this, and feel free to modify as you see fit:
Running - input as regular mileage
Road Biking - 4:1 ratio
Mountain Biking - 2:1
Swimming - .25:1 (ie. 1 mile swim = 4 mile run)
Exercise class - 8 minutes :1 mile
So, the results would be input as minutes or miles, depending on the activity, but would be displayed on the spreadsheet results in the running mileage equivalent.
Does that make any sense? I'm not a spreadsheet guy, but I imagine that BBB or one of you could whip this thing up with your eyes closed.
Unless we are going with a straight-up individual challenge (which I don't recommend) we need to divide up teams too.
I'm also willing to help with a spreadsheet but there are others here that are far better with such things.Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.
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