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  • Topper
    Pre-Historic Man
    • Nov 2011
    • 11764

    #1

    Electrical question

    If a circuit breaker did not kick off, and electrical power went out in one room, what should we examine next?
    "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

    Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
  • falafel
    loves to talk on things
    • Mar 2009
    • 37906

    #2
    Originally posted by Topper View Post
    If a circuit breaker did not kick off, and electrical power went out in one room, what should we examine next?
    Check all the GFIs.
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    • Uncle Ted
      The Big 12 money shot.
      • Apr 2010
      • 28853

      #3
      Originally posted by falafel View Post
      Check all the GFIs.
      Yes, at least the outlet GFI on the same circuit. To map out the circuit you may want to invest into one of these...

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      Next I would check the breaker to make sure it is not gone bad. Sometimes they don't indicate they have tripped so try shutting it off and then back on to make sure it has been properly reset. You may just want to try replacing it. Finally, if none of the above works then try smelling outlets for a burnt plastic/rubber. As future reference, it may not be a good idea to plug in your George Foreman grill next to your bed for a number of reasons even though it may sound like a good idea:

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      Last edited by Uncle Ted; 12-15-2014, 09:12 AM.
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      • Topper
        Pre-Historic Man
        • Nov 2011
        • 11764

        #4
        Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
        Yes, at least the outlet GFI on the same circuit. To map out the circuit you may want to invest into one of these...

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        Next I would check the breaker to make sure it is not gone bad. Sometimes they don't indicate they have tripped so try shutting it off and then back on to make sure it has been properly reset. You may just want to try replacing it. Finally, if none of the above works then replace your wiring.
        I checked the outlet and determined the neutral was bad. I had to fix the neutral, with the help of somebody knowledgeable. We were down to 117 volts. I don't know if I should get an amplifier or what I should do. We are not that far from the street.
        "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

        Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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        • Topper
          Pre-Historic Man
          • Nov 2011
          • 11764

          #5
          Originally posted by falafel View Post
          Check all the GFIs.
          Is that the same thing as the RCDs?
          "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

          Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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          • Uncle Ted
            The Big 12 money shot.
            • Apr 2010
            • 28853

            #6
            Originally posted by Topper View Post
            I checked the outlet and determined the neutral was bad. I had to fix the neutral, with the help of somebody knowledgeable. We were down to 117 volts. I don't know if I should get an amplifier or what I should do. We are not that far from the street.
            A bad neutral connection will show up on that tester.

            Is the neutral bad in the whole house or just that one room? If just the one room you need to check the white wire connection in your outlets starting with the one at the beginning of the circuit.
            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • Topper
              Pre-Historic Man
              • Nov 2011
              • 11764

              #7
              Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
              A bad neutral connection will show up on that tester.

              Is the neutral bad in the whole house or just that one room? If just the one room you need to check the white wire connection in your outlets starting with the one at the beginning of the circuit.
              Just the one room. It appears to be one circuit only. White wire. Okay.
              "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

              Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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              • Topper
                Pre-Historic Man
                • Nov 2011
                • 11764

                #8
                Why do we use 120 V instead of 220 or 240? Wouldn't it be more efficient to use higher voltage?
                "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                • Donuthole
                  Official Outgayer
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 25236

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Topper View Post
                  Why do we use 120 V instead of 220 or 240? Wouldn't it be more efficient to use higher voltage?
                  That doesn't even make sense.
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                  • Topper
                    Pre-Historic Man
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 11764

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                    That doesn't even make sense.
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                    The equation for power IIRC is Isquared times resistance. If you have lower wattage, you will lose power more quickly. So if you have higher voltage, you have a more consistent flow. It seems we are being less efficient using lower voltage. Again, electricity was a weakness for me in Physics, so I will defer to Ted.
                    "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                    Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                    • old_gregg
                      scaly man fish
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 16915

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Topper View Post
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                      The equation for power IIRC is Isquared times resistance. If you have lower wattage, you will lose power more quickly. So if you have higher voltage, you have a more consistent flow. It seems we are being less efficient using lower voltage. Again, electricity was a weakness for me in Physics, so I will defer to Ted.
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                      • Donuthole
                        Official Outgayer
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 25236

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Topper View Post
                        \
                        The equation for power IIRC is Isquared times resistance. If you have lower wattage, you will lose power more quickly. So if you have higher voltage, you have a more consistent flow. It seems we are being less efficient using lower voltage. Again, electricity was a weakness for me in Physics, so I will defer to Ted.
                        Would your plumbing be more efficient if your water supply line were twice as large?
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                        • Surfah
                          Where's Wallace?
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 33726

                          #13
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                          • SCcoug
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 7625

                            #14
                            Topper you seem very confused. I'll give you a little hint. Power is measured in watts. So when you say "If you have lower wattage, you will lose power more quickly" it doesn't make any sense. I'd suggest reading through the wiki entry for ohm's law.

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                            • creekster
                              It is NOT a monkey!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 22661

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
                              Topper you seem very confused. I'll give you a little hint. Power is measured in watts. So when you say "If you have lower wattage, you will lose power more quickly" it doesn't make any sense. I'd suggest reading through the wiki entry for ohm's law.
                              I think he is just a little worried because he is down to 117 volts and so must have a slow leak somewhere in his line.
                              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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