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    I know that if I ask my bishop or stake president this question they'll throw it back to me to rely on the spirit to tell me what to do. But I also recently heard mention that the spirit can't work on an empty head, so you need something in your mind to be inspired about. (This was either at General Conference a week ago or Stake Conference this past weekend.)

    So I've always paid tithing based on gross income without deducting money going into Social Security or 401K or company pension plans. And of course, I haven't kept track of how much was put into any of those either.

    In January I'll start collecting a small pension from two companies that I've worked for. A year after that I'll start collecting Social Security and will probably start taking regular money from my IRA annuities as well (401K was rolled over into that).

    So how do I figure what is one-tenth of my interest?

    Any and all suggestions would be appreciated.

  • #2
    Go with consecration - 100% to the church. That way you don't have to worry about the math.
    "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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    • #3
      Convert your money to cash every month and go out in your backyard and throw it up in the air. When you do so tell the Lord to take whatever he needs and whatever falls back to the ground is yours to keep. Easy peasy!


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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        Convert your money to cash every month and go out in your backyard and throw it up in the air. When you do so tell the Lord to take whatever he needs and whatever falls back to the ground is yours to keep. Easy peasy!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
          I think I’m going to start doing this with everything in my life.


          My work here is done.
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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          • #6
            You've already paid tithing on that income. Assume your retirement is like one of the church's corporations that wasn't "derived from tithing funds." You can thereafter build your own, personal, City Creek. Somewhere to sit in chairs, somewhere with stairs. Beach house, update.
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            The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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            • #7
              Bunch of wiseguys in here. I have thought about this, too, and here is what I do. I pay tithing on what I call a "modified gross." It's my gross minus my 401k contributions, which receive a company match. I plan to pay tithing on my withdrawals of my 401k at some point in the future.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                Convert your money to cash every month and go out in your backyard and throw it up in the air. When you do so tell the Lord to take whatever he needs and whatever falls back to the ground is yours to keep. Easy peasy!
                I do this, but with gold coins. Paper money is for suckers.
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                • #9
                  I'd probably try and determine what percentage of the account was principal and what percentage was interest, then pay tithing only on the interest portion when I make a withdrawal.

                  Situations like this is why heathens like me pay on net.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Crockett View Post
                    Bunch of wiseguys in here. I have thought about this, too, and here is what I do. I pay tithing on what I call a "modified gross." It's my gross minus my 401k contributions, which receive a company match. I plan to pay tithing on my withdrawals of my 401k at some point in the future.
                    This is what I do

                    I may be small, but I'm slow.

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                    • #11
                      I have a unique method for paying tithing, but in short, I don't plan on paying tithing once I retire unless somehow my income is greater than my expenses, which seems unlikely--for most of my retirement years, anyhow.
                      Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                      "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
                        I do this, but with gold coins. Paper money is for suckers.

                        I do this, but with bitcoin. This keeps the IRS out of the take.
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                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
                          I have a unique method for paying tithing, but in short, I don't plan on paying tithing once I retire unless somehow my income is greater than my expenses, which seems unlikely--for most of my retirement years, anyhow.
                          You must be going with the Roth Tithing Plan.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                            You must be going with the Roth Tithing Plan.
                            Ha! I got to talk to my bishop about switching to this plan.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sullyute View Post
                              Ha! I got to talk to my bishop about switching to this plan.
                              Yeah, it might be beneficial to switch to a Roth tithing plan if you think the tithing rate for you will go up.
                              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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