Just wanted to give '71 another reason to complain about the Honor Code

[falafel]

I quoted it for you.

I guess you could read it and that if you had consent you are free to continue, but that requires a believe that consent isn't continuing.

I realize practically no one is going to be prosecuted if they have consent, the woman passes out, and they decide to keep going for a short period of time.

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That how I would argue it. I don't see any provision that requires a person to continuously verify consent. Wouldn't that apply to normal, non-inebriated sex as well? "You still okay with this? Still? How 'bout now? Can I keep going? I'll just ask before each thrust."

[MartyFunkhouser]

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[Moliere]

what if one thrust is all that's necessary? is that rape?

Pretty sure that one thrust isn't technically sex so I'm going to say, not rape

[falafel]

So the only way to revoke consent is an affirmative no? I just don't think is the case or supported by the statute . Also no one saying you constantly have to affirm consent.

If you have a previous sexual relationship and decide to have sex with her while she unconscious is that rape?

If you are having sex and a woman says no to continued sex, do you get a couple of thrusts before you comply?

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You have argued the consent is continuous. If I understand your argument, anytime a woman passes out, consent is automatically withdrawn. What if the woman passes out for a few minute then wakes up in the middle of the act and is fine with it? The dude was a rapist for a minute or two?

Its just an absurd line to draw. Plus, you've already admitted it will be impossible to enforce and completely impractical.

[falafel]

Pretty sure that one thrust isn't technically sex so I'm going to say, not rape

That's been my line. "Sorry, it was just one poke - the law gives me that much, baby!"

[old_gregg]

Pretty sure that one thrust isn't technically sex so I'm going to say, not rape

another "wrinkle" in the discussion, if you will

[falafel]

another "wrinkle" in the discussion, if you will

[Shaka]

What if the sex is so great that the woman(or man) passes out for a few minutes?

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Good point. How is auto-erotic asphyxiation handled?

[Bo Diddley]

It's the leading story on CNN.com right now, so lots of people are talking about it. I welcome the awareness.

I don't know the scope of sexual assault/abuse at BYU, but I do know that it's a huge problem in our society, and even within our Mormon culture. I know too many stories and people that this has affected. I applaud Funk for his passion. It's obvious he doesn't have all the answers, but none of us do. I think awareness and discussion is a great start. I'll stop short of applauding the direction of this particular discussion.

[MartyFunkhouser]

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[Sleeping in EQ]

On the front page of CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/29/health...ape/index.html

[cougjunkie]

On the front page of CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/29/health...ape/index.html

Thanks SIEQ!!!

[New Mexican Disaster]

What if he got her drunk through a butt funnel (to which she consented) however, after a while, she became too intoxicated to consent to removal of the butt funnel. Guy removes butt funnel without her consent and is guilty of sodomy. So many difficult scenarios.

One of my former clients died from an alcohol butt funnel.

[byu71]

One of my former clients died from an alcohol butt funnel.

I have never ever heard of one of those I am not going to Google it I will be okay if I never learn

[hostile]

On the front page of CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/29/health...ape/index.html

Now running on CNN Live.