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  • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
    I think it's funny that you belittle the Shroud of Turin and think the Book of Abraham comes from God. At least the Shroud of Turin is a medieval relic. I assure you that if enough people paid attention the Book of Abraham would be as synonymous with counterfeit religious relics as the Shroud of Turin. Give me a break. Those engravings of Hurus and Isis or whatever Egyptian deity it is are right there in your scripture with explanations representing them as Abraham, etc.
    You are putting words in my mouth again.

    But don't bother, it's a fool's errand and I have a policy against such debates
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    • As I heard that old Oxford Don explain so beautifully at Chartres Cathedral, every magnificent cathedral has a fake relic that was its seed and driving inspiration. Something similar could be said of the Book of Abraham. So these frauds have in a sense served a good purpose. It's like the power of myth.
      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

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      • The priests I teach are very thoughtful and good guys. We were discussing sealings and eternal families when one priests wanted to confirm something he was once told. He had heard that a man can still be sealed to more than one woman but that a woman could not be sealed to more than one man. He didn't bring up polygamy directly, but I knew where he was heading. The bishop (who sits in from time to time) confirmed that was true and we moved on with the lesson.

        I've asked myself this question before and I wanted to throw it out there to see if anyone has other thoughts. Why do we as a church continue to believe and practice plural marriage even to this day but we don't teach it in our lessons? We could easily teaching the doctrine and discuss it as an eternal law that we don't currently live physically on earth but we can be married plurally in the temple. I mean, we have lessons on the law of consecration (which we don't fully live) but nothing on polygamy (which is still practiced to this day in the temple). Strange.
        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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        • Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
          The priests I teach are very thoughtful and good guys. We were discussing sealings and eternal families when one priests wanted to confirm something he was once told. He had heard that a man can still be sealed to more than one woman but that a woman could not be sealed to more than one man. He didn't bring up polygamy directly, but I knew where he was heading. The bishop (who sits in from time to time) confirmed that was true and we moved on with the lesson.

          I've asked myself this question before and I wanted to throw it out there to see if anyone has other thoughts. Why do we as a church continue to believe and practice plural marriage even to this day but we don't teach it in our lessons? We could easily teaching the doctrine and discuss it as an eternal law that we don't currently live physically on earth but we can be married plurally in the temple. I mean, we have lessons on the law of consecration (which we don't fully live) but nothing on polygamy (which is still practiced to this day in the temple). Strange.
          If I understand the new CHOI correctly, your bishop is no longer correct. While a woman can only be sealed to one man during her life, once she is decease she can be sealed to ALL men she was lawfully married to, including those from whom she was divorced.

          In answer to your question...yikes. Someone else can take a crack at that.

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          • What an interesting thread to re-read. I wonder how many people are still where they were on much of this a year and a half or so ago. I took some positions in this thread that I would not any longer try to defend. I used to get a lot more positive feed back when my thinking was more what you see in this thread.

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            • Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
              If I understand the new CHOI correctly, your bishop is no longer correct. While a woman can only be sealed to one man during her life, once she is decease she can be sealed to ALL men she was lawfully married to, including those from whom she was divorced.
              Really? Does anyone else find this absurd and creepy?

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              • Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                You can thank the lung fish for that. It all began one summer day when the mud pool began to get a little low and almost certain death awaited until that thunder bumper rescued Gil. Gil thought to himself, "Self, you need a plan B, so the next time you get to spray paint an egg cluster, think lungy thoughts".
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                • We're like bunch of ants hypothesizing about what's on the other side of the ant hill. The picture is bigger than we can comprehend, and out of our IQ scale.

                  In the meantime, I'm more worried about myself in the other dimensions, and how many women I've married, pissed off, and will have to apologize to.
                  Last edited by clackamascoug; 11-22-2010, 11:45 AM.

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                  • Last night MJ watched some Jane Austen book put to movie show. There must have been a death and remarry in the movie she watched because I got the question "Would you remarry if I died?" The funny thing is that while she was watching the movie I was reading RSR (the polygamy chapter).

                    I told her I wouldn't remarry unless it was to a non-member. She was confused as to why I wouldn't want to remarry and even stated that she would be okay with it. I then told her I didn't want to be sealed to two women and then asked her "Would you want to share me with some other woman?" She thought about it and said, well I'm sure it would all work out to which I probed further noting that I would be sealed to two women and loved (hopefully) by both.

                    She is obviously more concerned with the kids having a mother than the thought of sharing me with some other woman. In any case, the end result of the discussion was that I need to take out life insurance on MJ since I'd probably need to take time off of work to care for kids without getting resealed.

                    Sometimes our doctrine makes me think really illogically and this is obviously one of those examples.
                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                    • Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
                      Last night MJ watched some Jane Austen book put to movie show. There must have been a death and remarry in the movie she watched because I got the question "Would you remarry if I died?" The funny thing is that while she was watching the movie I was reading RSR (the polygamy chapter).

                      I told her I wouldn't remarry unless it was to a non-member. She was confused as to why I wouldn't want to remarry and even stated that she would be okay with it. I then told her I didn't want to be sealed to two women and then asked her "Would you want to share me with some other woman?" She thought about it and said, well I'm sure it would all work out to which I probed further noting that I would be sealed to two women and loved (hopefully) by both.

                      She is obviously more concerned with the kids having a mother than the thought of sharing me with some other woman. In any case, the end result of the discussion was that I need to take out life insurance on MJ since I'd probably need to take time off of work to care for kids without getting resealed.

                      Sometimes our doctrine makes me think really illogically and this is obviously one of those examples.
                      I think your practically minded wife has it right.

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                      • Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
                        Last night MJ watched some Jane Austen book put to movie show. There must have been a death and remarry in the movie she watched because I got the question "Would you remarry if I died?" The funny thing is that while she was watching the movie I was reading RSR (the polygamy chapter).

                        I told her I wouldn't remarry unless it was to a non-member. She was confused as to why I wouldn't want to remarry and even stated that she would be okay with it. I then told her I didn't want to be sealed to two women and then asked her "Would you want to share me with some other woman?" She thought about it and said, well I'm sure it would all work out to which I probed further noting that I would be sealed to two women and loved (hopefully) by both.

                        She is obviously more concerned with the kids having a mother than the thought of sharing me with some other woman. In any case, the end result of the discussion was that I need to take out life insurance on MJ since I'd probably need to take time off of work to care for kids without getting resealed.

                        Sometimes our doctrine makes me think really illogically and this is obviously one of those examples.
                        Interesting. My wife has made it clear that she will not ever marry again and that if she dies, I am not to remarry.

                        I asked her about whether she would want the kids to have a mother figure in their lives. She said, "You just want to have sex with someone else." I wisely dropped the subject and agreed to her demands.
                        Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

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                        • Originally posted by RedSox View Post
                          Interesting. My wife has made it clear that she will not ever marry again and that if she dies, I am not to remarry.

                          I asked her about whether she would want the kids to have a mother figure in their lives. She said, "You just want to have sex with someone else." I wisely dropped the subject and agreed to her demands.
                          Besides, once she's dead she can't do much about your marrying that 19 year old.
                          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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                          • Originally posted by falafel View Post
                            Besides, once she's dead she can't do much about your marrying that 19 year old.
                            Have you not seen Fiddler on the Roof?
                            Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                            "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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                            • Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                              I think your practically minded wife has it right.
                              Yes, and this is the reason that my thinking is so illogical. I know that I would remarry and that it would be to another member of the church. Having read that chapter in RSR 10 minutes before the conversation didn't help me though.
                              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                              • Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
                                Yes, and this is the reason that my thinking is so illogical. I know that I would remarry and that it would be to another member of the church. Having read that chapter in RSR 10 minutes before the conversation didn't help me though.
                                I don't think it's so illogical (esp. depending on how old you are when your wife dies).

                                If my wife were to die while I had kids in the house, I wouldn't marry a person with kids or who wanted kids. Having gone down the whole step-sibling route, I'm not sure I want that for my children, and I'm not particularly interested in having more children.

                                How many LDS women are either childless or don't want kids, but want to get hitched? Not very many, I'd imagine.

                                Of course, this is all hypothetical (in case Mrs. RedSox is watching).

                                If I were older (kids grown), I could see myself marrying an LDS woman.
                                Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

                                "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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