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  • #46
    Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post
    I actually learned a lot more about Job when I took a "Bible as Literature", which was in the English department, rather than than religious education.
    Hey, I had that class too! My grade was based almost entirely on 4 term papers. I got an A on each of them, but then somehow got an A- in the class. I tried for weeks to track down the professor for an explanation, but he avoided me. I'm still pissed about it.
    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

    Dig your own grave, and save!

    "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

    "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • #47
      Did taking that class fulfill your religion credit requirement? I'm confused.
      You're actually pretty funny when you aren't being a complete a-hole....so basically like 5% of the time. --Art Vandelay
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
        Did taking that class fulfill your religion credit requirement? I'm confused.
        No, it was an English class. It fulfilled a credit for my major.
        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

        Dig your own grave, and save!

        "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

        "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • #49
          Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
          Because they knew Utah would offer this class 65 years after they graduated?
          There's a reason they are called prophets, SEERS, and revelators!
          "Friendship is the grand fundamental principle of Mormonism" - Joseph Smith Jr.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
            Prooftexting. That's rich, coming from Hamblin and his entourage.
            Hamblin follows up with a rant against both CES and liberal mormons. What strange bedfellows!

            http://www.patheos.com/blogs/enigmat...izing-impulse/

            Starting to hear rumors of what is coming in the next journal issue from the new Maxwell Institute. If what I am hearing is correct, Hamblin and Daniel Peterson may spontaneously combust. Should be fun to witness the drama.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
              Excellent post, Clark.
              Yes, well done Clark.

              The constant need to validate & defend the status quo is one of the more uncomfortable elements of Mormonism. It's one of the more culty things about the church.

              This de-emphasis on the actual texts has happened in secular parts of the Academy too. Often, students aren't really asked to read anything in its entirety anymore. It's all about the excerpts, or even the summaries. I know several History professors who don't require students to read primary sources, just a textbook and maybe a historical novel or something.

              Twitter & Facebook haven't helped students' ability to work through dense material either.

              With respect to the new curriculum, wouldn't a more prudent approach be to offer both kinds of classes? Why abandon one altogether?

              For all of the huffing & puffing from the faculty, in the end, it's the students' loss I guess.
              "More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
              -- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)

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              • #52
                I used to think it was too bad we only studied New Testament once every four years. I really don't know what this change means yet, but I hope it doesn't mean we do it less.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  Hamblin follows up with a rant against both CES and liberal mormons. What strange bedfellows!

                  http://www.patheos.com/blogs/enigmat...izing-impulse/

                  Starting to hear rumors of what is coming in the next journal issue from the new Maxwell Institute. If what I am hearing is correct, Hamblin and Daniel Peterson may spontaneously combust. Should be fun to witness the drama.
                  I don't understand all his angst, except for his bitterness over the Maxwell Institute drama. He's a history professor, so I assume he can see the danger of prooftexting in his profession. But as far as church education goes, there's been a fair amount of it as long as I can recall. There are whole doctrines based on narrow interpretations of single scriptures.

                  Maybe he would be more supporting of the new curriculum if the authors could work in various 'butthead' insults in the text.
                  "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                  "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                  - SeattleUte

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                  • #54
                    Now that he and DP have been ousted as defenders of the faith everyone is an enemy
                    Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                    God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                    Alessandro Manzoni

                    Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                    pelagius

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