OW in the Snow

[Sleeping in EQ]

Is it fair to conclude that the Church is treating those in the OW movement as ciphers in the snow?

In other words, is the Church treating members of the OW movement as nonentities and letting negative discourses gradually reduce them to what they perceive them to be--apostates?

[Topper]

Is it fair to conclude that the Church is treating those in the OW movement as ciphers in the snow?

In other words, is the Church treating members of the OW movement as nonentities and letting negative discourses gradually reduce them to what they perceive them to be--apostates?

That is the Church's MO in the past. I see nothing to dissuade us from that conclusion.

[ERCougar]

Um...they (bishops/stake presidents) excommunicated the founder and have called most if not all of the members of the board for interviews. Am I misunderstanding what you mean here?

[byu71]

Is it fair to conclude that the Church is treating those in the OW movement as ciphers in the snow?

In other words, is the Church treating members of the OW movement as nonentities and letting negative discourses gradually reduce them to what they perceive them to be--apostates?

I don't think it is the churches duty to promote them. They should do their own promoting. I think the press would love to help them out.

I also doubt the church thinks of them as apostates any more than they think of a golfer having a beer on the golf course as an apostate.

[Sleeping in EQ]

That is the Church's MO in the past. I see nothing to dissuade us from that conclusion.

Exactly.

Now I'm feeling like I completely missed the message when my seminary teacher showed "Cipher in the Snow" all those years ago.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

I also doubt the church thinks of them as apostates any more than they think of a golfer having a beer on the golf course as an apostate.

We should have some kind of private thread where posters can confess to the bishops on the board. I'd choose BigPiney of I have major confessions, seems like he's cool and would be like "Hey, don't do it that much anymore, ok?"

[YOhio]

I have had no repercussions for my outspoken feminism.

[Moliere]

Um...they (bishops/stake presidents) excommunicated the founder and have called most if not all of the members of the board for interviews. Am I misunderstanding what you mean here?

Yeah, I'm not fully understanding the OP either. The church certainly didn't ignore them and in fact openly attacked them in conference through a couple talks.

[byu71]

We should have some kind of private thread where posters can confess to the bishops on the board. I'd choose BigPiney of I have major confessions, seems like he's cool and would be like "Hey, don't do it that much anymore, ok?"

Great idea. PAC and Art V., two former Bishops, have actually witnessed my sinning on the golf course. Is that a form of confession or would I have to verbally confess anyway?

[clackamascoug]

Perhaps a better question... Is the Church treating the OW movement like Tom Trails? On again off again with Lilly, and finally the big break up.

[TripletDaddy]

I think the Church is treating OW more like The Phone Call*, where both parties are really nervous to talk to each other but when they finally do it winds up being pretty cool.

*filmed at Ripples in Edgemont!

[Sleeping in EQ]

Yeah, I'm not fully understanding the OP either. The church certainly didn't ignore them and in fact openly attacked them in conference through a couple talks.

Of course I am aware of the conference talks and much publicized courts of love. When I refer to "the OW movement," I'm not talking about OW's high profile leadership or members of the board. I'm talking about all of the folks out there who sympathize with OW, who see themselves as supportive, and who are being left to be diminished by the negative discourse.

I hope this helps.

[Goatnapper'96]

Of course I am aware of the conference talks and much publicized courts of love. When I refer to "the OW movement," I'm not talking about OW's high profile leadership or members of the board. I'm talking about all of the folks out there who sympathize with OW, who see themselves as supportive, and who are being left to be diminished by the negative discourse.

I hope this helps.

Victims, victims everywhere and all the wards did shrink!

[Sleeping in EQ]

Victims, victims everywhere and all the wards did shrink!

When I first watched Cipher in the Snow in seminary, I thought of the boy who collapses and dies as being like "Us" or "the Mormons." We are so desperate for affirmation.

Maybe we've turned the corner and become like those who treat the boy like a nonentity.

[wally]

When I first watched Cipher in the Snow in seminary, I thought of the boy who collapses and dies as being like "Us" or "the Mormons." We are so desperate for affirmation.

Maybe we've turned the corner and become like those who treat the boy like a nonentity.

That's weird. When I first watched it I thought about being nice to the poor, afflicted and down-trodden, you know, kind of like JC was, but hey, that's just me.