Talk I'm giving tomorrow

[Tim]

I've been asked to speak about prayer and its impact on my life. I'm sharing a few personal experiences, as well as focusing on D&C 58. I'm also using BRM's anecdote of not praying about who he should marry to discuss the concept of making our own decisions rather than expecting the Lord to make them for us.

I thought I'd pop online and see if any of you can refer me to any other quotes or stories that illustrate this concept.

[CardiacCoug]

There's probably not a good way to work this into a talk, but I thought this regarding prayer was interesting:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104310443

[smokymountainrain]

I've been asked to speak about prayer and its impact on my life. I'm sharing a few personal experiences, as well as focusing on D&C 58. I'm also using BRM's anecdote of not praying about who he should marry to discuss the concept of making our own decisions rather than expecting the Lord to make them for us.

I haven't heard that anecdote, but I'm curious...Is it okay to ask for the Lord's help in making some of those decisions?

I guess what I'm saying is that I'm not sure it has to be so black and white. It seems we can ask for his guidance and/or input while still making the decision ourselves. It's probably something you'd already considered, but I thought I'd throw it out there.

[Tim]

I haven't heard that anecdote, but I'm curious...Is it okay to ask for the Lord's help in making some of those decisions?

I guess what I'm saying is that I'm not sure it has to be so black and white. It seems we can ask for his guidance and/or input while still making the decision ourselves. It's probably something you'd already considered, but I thought I'd throw it out there.

Absolutely we should ask him for help in making the decisions. That's the counsel. The point I am making, though, is that as we're developing in the gospel, we tend to want to wait for the Lord to tell us what to do instead of making choices with his guidance. Here's the quote:

How do you choose a wife? I've heard a lot of young people from Brigham Young University and elsewhere say, "I've got to get a feeling of inspiration. I've got to get some revelation. I've got to fast and pray and get the Lord to manifest to me whom I should marry." Well, maybe it will be a little shock to you, but never in my life did I ever ask the Lord whom I ought to marry. It never occurred to me to ask him. I went out and found the girl I wanted; she suited me; I evaluated and weighed the proposition, and it just seemed a hundred percent to me as though this ought to be. Now, if I'd done things perfectly, I'd have done some counseling with the Lord, which I didn't do; but all I did was pray to the Lord and ask for some guidance and direction in connection with the decision that I'd reached. A more perfect thing to have done would have been to counsel with him relative to the decision and get a spiritual confirmation that the conclusion, which I by my agency and faculties had arrived at, was the right one.

My talk is more geared toward being an affirmation of D&C 58:26-29.

[smokymountainrain]

Absolutely we should ask him for help in making the decisions. That's the counsel. The point I am making, though, is that as we're developing in the gospel, we tend to want to wait for the Lord to tell us what to do instead of making choices with his guidance. Here's the quote:



My talk is more geared toward being an affirmation of D&C 58:26-29.

Makes sense. I'm sure you'll do a great job.

[LA Ute]

There's probably not a good way to work this into a talk, but I thought this regarding prayer was interesting:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=104310443

Hmmm . . . I am going to save that story for a time when I want to be released, and then work it into a lesson for the Young Men.

[il Padrino Ute]

There's probably not a good way to work this into a talk, but I thought this regarding prayer was interesting:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=104310443

That was a very interesting read. Thanks for posting.

[Tim]

The talk went really well. I enjoyed it.

I also found out during church that I'm likely being called as the new seminary teacher.

[RC Vikings]

The talk went really well. I enjoyed it.

I also found out during church that I'm likely being called as the new seminary teacher.

I hope you and HuskyFreeNorthwest aren't in the same ward.

[pellegrino]

I also found out during church that I'm likely being called as the new seminary teacher.

That's a calling I'll never envy. GD is already too painful to teach, I can only imagine what seminary would be and it's not a pretty sight.

Seminary student: You mean to say that there are multiple accounts of the first vision and that they aren't the same?

Bro. pellegrino: Yes, that's what I said.

Student: Well which one am I supposed to believe?

[il Padrino Ute]

That's a calling I'll never envy. GD is already too painful to teach, I can only imagine what seminary would be and it's not a pretty sight.

Seminary student: You mean to say that there are multiple accounts of the first vision and that they aren't the same?

Bro. pellegrino: Yes, that's what I said.

Student: Well which one am I supposed to believe?

That would probably a quick way to get released as a Seminary teacher.

[wuapinmon]

I'm likely being called as the new seminary teacher.

This confirms my testimony of the existence of God, a just and wise God.

[pellegrino]

That would probably a quick way to get released as a Seminary teacher.

That might depend on how I answered. Either way I hope I never get three callings: Bishopric, EQ Presidency, and seminary teacher.

[FN Phat]

That might depend on how I answered. Either way I hope I never get three callings: Bishopric, EQ Presidency, and seminary teacher.

Agreed. That is why I do my best to fly under the radar.

[wuapinmon]

That might depend on how I answered. Either way I hope I never get three callings: Bishopric, EQ Presidency, and seminary teacher.

I've done all three. I liked bishopric, a little, but the endless meetings were terrible.